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We should have super delegates.

Reads a lot like Curbelo.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 02:23 PM) Executive orders are necessary for administrative agencies to function when there is obstructionism in Congress - vacancies need to be filled, the agencies need to be run. You can't make them go away. You can only challenge the constitutionality of the Order when it goes too far (something the Rs actually did successfully with at least one of Obama's EOs. And you ultimately have to hope that the power of the executive is being wielded by someone who is an adult. Ultimately, if you want to get the hardliners out, there has to be greater participation in elections that happen in non-Presidential years and, more importantly, in the primaries. The hardline voters come out at the primaries, forcing politicians to run to the right or the left respectively. I don't think executive orders need to go away, I think executive orders as replacement for governing need to go away. I'm glad that DACA was done in 2012, but policy is so much more tenuous when done this way. It's bad for all.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 01:46 PM) I disagree. You cant make "rules" to fix people. Just because hardliners were voted in 6 years ago, doesnt mean today people arent fed up with it. If those people who are already in power cant learn how to "play nice", then its time for different people. The rules have been the same since the beginning, but the whole "I cant work with the other side" is seemingly a relatively new phenomenon. I am not saying that every person in congress cant play nice, just that if they continue to believe "This is what their constituents want" they wont change their behavior. If there is a real threat that they will lose power all of a sudden maybe theyll "play nice again." I hate to use this analogy, but Congress is like a child who is fighting over a toy. At some point we as the parents, have to tell them if they cant share, no one gets to play. But I that's a reflection of the electorate. They are not out of step with their electorate. They are in a big cycle where less ideological parties are required for the senate to run, the parties are more ideological, and the senate cannot run, and then the public votes in fresh lambs for the slaughter who say they can fix the unfixable. If we survive this debacle from Trump, the only way out I see is curtailing executive power. But exec power make it easier for congress to rule, and right now it isn't possible with super majorities required.

Looks like the people of colorado will just need to show up in person and give a piece of their mind.

Regardless of where we go, some institutional norms should be thought about becoming law rather than house rules. Some house rules should be removed. I don't think it's a people problem. Dems courted Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe like crazy wanting bipartisan support for the ACA. They basically admitted to everything in the bill but then still voted no. There is still going to be a time where bipartisanship is courted but it's ebbed right now. If bipartisanship is not possible, it is not going to be resolved by different people, imo, it's going to be resolved by different rules of procedure.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) Its almost as if we need a movement to vote out every incumbent. Just to put the fear back into them. The majority of the hard-liners were voted in in the last 6 years.

Caulfield it is a lot more readable for you to just post a link and pull out a block quote than pasting these huge excerpts. I just scroll right past every time.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 10:23 AM) That's the key thing, and why all these corporations that had or have bases in the suburbs or ex-urbs are moving their executive and management roles and headquarters downtown so regularly. It's actually more costly in the direct sense, but gets them a much better base of talent. I hope IIT uses this as a boost and tries to create a relationship and recruiting point with caterpillar. IIT has too good of a history to have fallen off this much.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 09:58 AM) Caterpillar moving their corporate headquarters and CEO to Chicago. It's only 300 jobs, but another kick to the junk for Peoria. Wow. Edit: not too surprised though, have had friends turn down jobs with caterpillar not wanting to move.

Here's a good critique of the EO on immigration from the Right: http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/30/heres-...ys-needs-fixed/ Point being: while I recommend taking refugees from Syria, there is ample room for president to make policy on that through EO. Yet, the thing was so overly broad and ill thought out.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 04:42 PM) other subject - who was it here who repeatedly said that LGBTQ people had nothing to fear from Donald Trump and Mike Pence because he hadn't campaigned on hating them as hard as he did his hatred for Islam? That appears to have bought an extra 5-6 days, per press reports of what's coming. Mary Emily O'Hara on twitter saying WH pulling back for now on new exec order.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 04:12 PM) Bannon's being front-and-center in his administration is what makes it a hell of a lot harder to simply dismiss as an honest mistake. When you put a white nationalist in as your chief policy adviser, you don't get the benefit of the doubt when you "forget" to mention the Jews when talking about the holocaust. I would have thought honest mistake up until Spicer kept defending it. Like, why?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 04:03 PM) What do people think of this whole "holocaust" controversy? I actually side with Trump on this. He didn't single out any group, but I didn't think there was anything horrible or malicious around his use of words. This is what I think is dangerous about how Trump's detractor's are taking things. If you complain about every little thing, including things, like this, which I generally believe to be small (of course I'd like to think I'm rationale and could be delusional instead) then you start to get people who maybe aren't as logical / rational who look at the media and say, if they are going to complain about every little thing, then it is the old "boy who cried" wolf and you basically are just hammering a person and people stop believing everything (which is the wrong answer). It's mainly that he has a lot of ties and support from white nationalists and saying the holocaust was not targeted to exterminating Jews specifically is a popular form of holocaust denial. To remove mentions of Jews from a holocaust Remembrance Day press release is at best showing their incompetence and at worst a sign of more to come. But of course they go out and try to clarify by actually diminishing that it was about Jews more by saying "lots of people suffered in the holocaust." Could this be a thing like people assuming saying Islamic terror will save all? Maybe, but he also didn't have to hire a guy who uses his media company to stoke white supremacy memes.

Don't be afraid to mention this is your first call, it underscores how motivated you are.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 12:19 PM) 1. Generally you do expect that people will pick up, although for some reason over the last week their staffs have been overwhelmed. 2. Do not ask to speak to the Senator or Congressperson unless you also are writing them a $2000 check. 3. Focusing on 1 or 2 issues per call is best. 4. Be polite. These are low paid staffers or volunteers who take down people's comments and record them in sort of a "pooling" fashion. Don't yell, don't be angry even with them. 5. If you get sent to voice mail, leave a message stating your name, your zip code, and express your opinion on that issue. Someone will get to that eventually. 6. If the lines are completely jammed and voice mail is full, call back another time and feel free to complain about that when you call back as that's a failure to meet the needs of your district. 7. There is debate over whether calling the local office or national office is preferable, some people strongly advocate for both. I think you're good either way. Good rundown. If you don't know how to start just go with "I'd like to know the senators stance on X" and then they may or may not yet have one, so tell them your stance and what you'd like to see.

EOs like that mean nothing for now

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 11:18 AM) Paul Zipser looks like he can play. He isn't a defensive sieve and he looks like he's got some stones for a rookie. Hit some huge shots late, including a nice drive. Looks the opposite of Niko and Doug, who tend to be defensive sieves that make a lot of "negative" plays. What the hell is the real story with Denzel Valentine. Something has to be going on that is driving him to get such little playing time? The inability to develop Portis, Valentine, Niko, and Doug are so damning. While I don't expect any of those guys to be great, they all have enough talent to be solid rotational guys, imo. We aren't seeing it at all though. I feel part of that is how jacked around some of them get (Niko being the exception...I feel he gets too long of a leash at times, but I just can't bear with how little progress we've seen). Jerked around a lot in positions too. But all were tweeners.

QUOTE (G&T @ Jan 30, 2017 -> 10:52 AM) I'm going to guess those reports aren't entirely true. Otherwise there's a suspicious lack of investigating. There is a curious situation right now where both the detainees are not getting access to lawyers but also reassurance that the court order is going to be followed. If people still detained thru tomorrow, it will be more clear.

Yeah something is going to give soon with that. The priebus interview defending the removal of mentioning Jews from the holocaust is something that is so outside how we have treated things forever.

Did they walk back the dual citizenship part yet? Getting accurate info from this group is impossible

This story of a doctor on residency at a Cleveland clinic getting forced out is just so cruel https://www.propublica.org/article/clevelan...tent=1485734179

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 03:47 PM) Support Jon Ossoff for Congress, running in Georgia's 6th district for the seat vacated by Tom Price. Already endorsed by Rep. John Lewis. Head over to his site, like his page on facebook, donate to the campaign. Election this spring. https://electjon.com Thank you

can someone ask hahn if he gets a call to put it on speaker

Weird, it's almost like encouraging players to undercut the coach they didn't like in the media had a longer term consequence of also having their players undercut the coach they did like. Couldn't have seen that coming!