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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 09:11 AM) Something working on favor of the Sox for Beer I'd that they play in the AL, whereas all of the other tankers are in the NL. Right. In spring training of last year we would have laughed that there was no way the reds/phillies/braves would not be in the top three, and lo and behold the 84 win twins ended up with the #1 pick. It's hard to tell me after watching the last two years and not improving at all that this team without eaton and sale is actually still a 70 win team.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 03:31 PM) Honestly I do not know at all why this President has chosen commutations over pardons but that has been a choice they have made literally thousands of times over the past year, and since I'm in this thread I can say that I'll defer to their judgment as they've earned some deference. My best guess is pardon implies innocence whereas commuting is a disagreement on sentencing. I think May puts Manning on a more reasonable sentence for her crimes. The non-violent drug offenders were commuted, again, not implying innocence but instead sentencing issues.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 03:29 PM) I wouldn't put it past them to make up some bogus stuff. "She tried attacking a prison guard. That's 20 more years!" What rationale is there that Trump Admin would want to reverse this.

Good. That year plus where she was in solitary was absurd and abusive.

QUOTE (SpringfieldFan @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 03:19 PM) Not to excuse or defend him, but I just got a flashback to a time when *another* 100+ flamethrower from Texas retaliated by throwing punches at a player. Luckily Robin isn't our manager anymore.

It is kind of incredible seeing where th eleague is at now with 1b/dh types and how freaking hard the sox tried and failed to plug a league average DH into their lineup.

Aside from stats, Guerrero is one of those players that is just "hall-worthy" for how memorable they were. Laser throws from outfield, golf swing home runs. He was just awesome.

From FG Eric Longenhagen chat: JH 12:46 What kind of draft range would you put on L. Robert? Is he a first-round type talent? Eric A Longenhagen 12:46 Oh yes. Top 10. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/eric-longen...ies-to-removal/

I don't know, so long as Kopech attitude doesn't involve publicly throwing teammates/coaches/team under bus constantly I wouldn't mind a bigger personality. Big arrogant long-haired texan throwing 100+? Sure, that's what makes sports fun. That is to say, unless he sucks. If he sucks then its a problem because sucky players should just be sulking about how much they suck.

Yeah that list clearly values proximity. I would imagine most updated lists would certainly have alvarez top ten and Glasnow/giolito fallen. It also lists Martes as having a good AFL but everything I've read is those that saw him only at AFL walked away unimpressed.

#2 is especially adorable.

And notables included Keller from the pirates, also rumored.

Is there going to be more from the talk with Fisher?

I really hope some more of the 00-05 games fill in on Youtube. I've been trying to find some video of the 2002 (?) or 2003 game where we were facing Blue Jays and Crede hit a 3 run home run to tie and I want to say also a walk off grand slam?

Wish I could, instead planning on a NC minor league run in May.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 02:15 PM) He actually said that? After being cut by the Cubs, that would basically mean he wants to play for the Sox lol On one of the Garfein podcasts I believe it was Chris Kamka who said he knows Hammel and knows he'd like to stay in Chicago. But also, I believe he asked Cubs To not pick up option test FA market.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 02:06 PM) I think they'll do that sort of signing but my guess is jason Hammel, who I believe we've heard wants to stay in Chicago Area anyway. If he doesn't sign with Sox I think he goes to Ms.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 12:51 PM) Luhnow looking more and more like a dumb dog chasing its tail. Not long ago when Luhnow didn't like Hahn's asking price for Q, he moved on to Duffy/Ventura and then a few weeks later back in discussions for Q again. Now they supposedly have their eye on Gray, lol. Go ahead Luhnow, trade for anyone of Duffy/Ventura/Gray and add them to the problematic pitchers you already have. Feel free to call the Sox when you give up on childish bluffs and your balls drop which will allow you to pony up for the best available SP on the trade market. Luhnow is only an idiot if he doesn't end up with Q. As it stands he is just a GM trying to get a great piece at his price, notice that no other team has yet so outbid HOU that they are out.

Feels like people take these rumors personally. Why wouldn't the Astros monitor the Gray situation? If you could get him for .50 on the dollar wouldn't you call?

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 09:25 AM) What was the Yankees package? The Frazier, Mateo one? His article says Sox targets are Mateo / Rutherford

Just from Twitter stuff: Radio Levine said he expects deal this week. Anyway, did anyone read that Yankees package he proposed?

QUOTE (Whitesoxa6 @ Jan 15, 2017 -> 03:20 PM) I remember being hyped when Moncada came over and thought the WhiteSox had a chance to sign him. I highly doubt we take the financial risk on this kid even if we are in a serious rebuild with little financial obligations. Prove me wrong RH The difference is this kid if cleared after June 15 is subject to a cap.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 15, 2017 -> 03:12 PM) Well no one has added his article so here. Aside from that blurb it's all stuff we've heard said before including Q's background and contract, that "insider" bit is the new part. Ha, people thinking they can escape this thread and then bam! Nope! It has us gripped.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 03:55 PM) I tried to open the article in two different browsers, and see no list. Just a few grafs of intro for numbers 76-100. What did they say about Burdi? Hostetlers interview with Merkin (or garfein?) after the trade was pretty definitive saying he's staying in relief.

Red flags exist for a lot of prospects. A 30% k rate is concerning, but much more concerning without walks. Kris Bryant k'd 30% of the time in AAA. He isn't just a good hitter he's an MVP. Demeritte has a 13% walk rate. High walk/High power, good d, high k is still a major leaguer. It's not enough to completely write him off as a 3rd piece in a deal.