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QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 12:54 PM) The catchers aren't the problem, but does anyone think Tyler Flowers is the solution? Even if you believe the pitch framing numbers as both predictive and accurate you can AT BEST make an argument that Tyler Flowers is an average starting catcher. That is absolute at best. Middle case he's bottom 1/3 starter and that's where I'd put him. I do agree with Hawk and your post however -- catcher isn't the team's biggest problem. That would be 3B, RF and SS. Ramirez has been f***ing awful it's time to cut bait on him. The problem is I think it will be so expensive to improve catcher as opposed to our awful 3b/2b/SS/RF production that I don't see the infatuation with him considering he's at least very good at one thing.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 12:47 PM) Come on, you don't see the difference between a rape between a guard and a juvi inmate (a minor) and a child molester in gen pop? They deserve it for going to jail right? Lol?

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 12:49 PM) I don't think "prison rape" is something we allow, it's more like something that happens. You are talking about some of the worst of the worst people from society performing these acts. This is a case of you can't have your cake and eat it too. If you wan't to get rid of rape in prison, there are two very simple solutions -- get caught raping someone -- you get the choice of the death penalty or life in solitary. The situation will then resolve itself. But the reality is, I'm sure you'd protest that, too. Because it's inhumane to be inhumane to the inhumane and all...and yes, I said that properly. There have been actual reforms presented to Congress that don't even get out of committee. Nobody is spending effort on people that aren't even constituents.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 12:37 PM) Serious question...is it more a common joke because people think it is funny and just presume that is what happens in prison, or does it really happen to the extent people joke about (because of what they've seen dramatized on tv)? Maybe this is a dumb question but I've never looked into it and I don't know anyone who any time in jail (outside of the drunk tank). I believe, don't have it in front of me, that the highest number of victims happens in juvenile prisons, and guards are a big perpetrator. So the haha funny joke is as depressing as Balta makes out. It's a terrible issue that gets no standing because people feel like they deserve it, which is disgusting. Something so incredible to me, is this is something so on the margins of society, where if I heard anyone discuss anything hinting on this i'd at the very least tell people what I heard, but likely call the cops. That these people could have been doing this for years is not that surprising, it's that they can find partners in crime. I assume this is internet anonymity helping this? Certainly Jared and his president didn't just find out together.

If you think Flowers is the worst in the league you aren't even accurate when describing worst players on the white sox. Yes, it is fair for people to bring up that a catcher is great at working with the pitchers, as that is a huge part of the job. Hitters that are bad at that don't stay catchers because it matters.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 18, 2015 -> 01:29 PM) LBJ is twice the human Jordan ever was. On the court, MJ > James (skill-sets different though) but Lebron, who I rooted against like no other in Miami (and will do so again with Cleveland) has handled his fame very well and learned from his mistakes. Not to mention, his mistakes were not anything that actually negatively hurt people (just a PR fiasco). LBJ last season, with all the injuries to the Cavs, wasn't a heal, he was a lot like LBJ from the early Cavs teams, an incredible player trying to drive the underdog story. Next season though, with the healthy cast, I agree LBJ probably goes back a bit to being a "heal" but not near the "heal" he was during the Heat era and again, none if it takes away from this awesome and amazing gesture he made. Oh yeah he was such a joy last season openly moping about Kevin Love and Kyrie's D on the court, openly ignoring his head coach, calling out Kevin Love in press conferences, and doing his typical I HAVE NEVER FOULED ANYONE IN MY LIFE AND YET I AM ALWAYS FOULED! He's unbearable to watch.

Considering where he was considered at the end of last year, I'm very excited that it looks like we have at the very least a defensive replacement (an excellent one) with some pop. Favorite thing about watching Trayce so far, he looks like he has a clue on the basepaths. He's also fast with crazy reactions. Him being able to get back to 1st on a pickoff move after he'd started to run to second was crazy.

It is random, but i've seen rodon's explosions all with Soto. Each time he was calling an odd number of fastballs. For example, vs. Yankees, Rodon actually started attacking with the fastball and getting 2 strikes to batters. They started hitting it hard, and he kept calling for fastballs. Predictably rodon started to try and throw away and got wild. Flowers has had a nice mix of changeups and sliders with Rodon. On the other hand, Rodon's slider command may have been terrible in the bullpen and they did this with Soto to compensate.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 18, 2015 -> 10:08 AM) Leury's OPS is actually 41 points higher than Matt Davidson's. Honestly surprised how a guy with 20 homers has as low of a slugging % as davidson has, let alone his awful OBP.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 18, 2015 -> 09:30 AM) Unless we are ready to revisit the Leury Garcia experience. He homered last night!

Balta's just trying to rub the samardjiza trade in everyones face by implying that even the QO offer process will be a disaster. It is the last thing I'm worried about.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 18, 2015 -> 09:12 AM) I can think of $16 million or so reasons why it's a potential problem. For what? Why? Your whole stance is that they incorrectly accelerated a rebuild, and you are worried about an extra $7 million we are hamstrung by for one year? Your question is are we nervous about Shark accepting, but no, I would have no reservations about delivering a qualifying offer if the worst case scenario is getting a 200IP pitcher for 1 year, 17 million. I would be shocked if he didn't outperform this year, but even if he did, it has very little ramifications longterm with the exception of possibly/maybe creating a temporary surplus of pitching depth. If that's the worst case scenario, that is certainly worth extending with the hope fo getting a comp pick.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 18, 2015 -> 09:10 AM) With Danks on the roster I don't think I did. However, I also see no reason why we should expect him to follow a path that different from Rodon. Really for starting the season though if Samardzija is here then EJ isn't. That's who the initial tradeoff would be. Oh no, what a terrible problem, let's kill ourselves.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 17, 2015 -> 08:42 PM) IMO, if you count Fulmer, the White Sox are back to having 6 starters who should/will be in the big leagues for most of next year even without Samardzija. Fulmer may not be ready for a whole season, but conveniently I won't mind replacing Danks with him. So that's the risk. (Danks, of course, has a better ERA than Samardzija this year too. But him, we'll be able to replace) I see no reason to take it for granted that Fulmer would be ready next year.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 17, 2015 -> 10:53 PM) The guy also called two balls strikes. The ump suddenly called the same pitch the third time around a strike...it threw off the whole AB

QUOTE (Real @ Aug 17, 2015 -> 10:53 PM) Until the sox get a real catcher I cannot take them seriously. Flowers shouldve been one and DFA'D not an everyday starter are you f***ing serious You guys are ridiculous

QUOTE (Baron @ Aug 17, 2015 -> 10:52 PM) His pitch framing makes up for his lack of offense though Well, we have a chance to win the game iwirh Rodon pitching instead of down 13-1

Tyler got screwed in that at bat. Going to bed. Hope we win.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 17, 2015 -> 09:44 PM) Didn't Lincoln Chafee (RI) throw his hat into the ring, too? He's polling zero percent, so probably why he was not included.

Biden has zero constituency. I admire the hell out of him thou

QUOTE (shipps @ Aug 17, 2015 -> 04:55 PM) Just looking at current starters in the league now picked up after 15th pick. Flacco (18) Dalton (35) Brees (32) Kaepernick (36) Wilson (75) just names not mentioned yet btw Yes to Brees, mentioned Wilson. I'd feel pretty meh about having Flacco/Dalton/Kaep, though Flacco may not deserve that grouping. But God, he is boring.

Also, Young as Undrafted is very misleading.

Sorry guys, not convinced as you try to pull in guys like Bulger for volume and go back to Unitas. You know what does seem to set all of those late round QBs apart though? They went to teams with great QB systems and coaching. It's likely no matter where Bears draft they'll fail unless we finallly have a team in place to develop/support them. I think John Fox puts his QBs in place to succeed and overcome deficiencies, but his ability to trust coordinators to implement their systems means it's not consistent.

Crede was exciting because he was an offensive prospect. Davidson is not Joe Crede.

Great, so there's 4 in the last 40 years.