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the sox have zavala on a 4 year contract...

well yeah. They had the new ownership group come in, they brought in a ton of the yankees F.O. They seemed to be on a pretty clear rebuild. They had a top ten farm...then Jeter leaves, they seem to stop trying to add, their farm takes a huge hit with max meyer. But this is a world series rotation. They are going to blow it up again?

I would be scared to give him a 1 year 18.5 m offer in case he signed. Would totally derail some bullpen signings.

I don't understand the marlins right now. At all.

no but he still blossomed offensively and we were like "Ok we know defense here at the white sox, and that guy don't have it!"

yeah. But I kinda don't want to see kershaw be anything else but a dodger at this point.

remember when we used to look up the amount san diego needed to pay for their stadium debt and be like "no way they can sign them"!

I'm not sure how much of my fandom is left to die but I can't imagine how much of me will die if they trade carlos perez and he ends up like a omar narvaez guy.

I don't think the white sox should rebuild. I think if steve cohen was owner there is an easy path with this FA class to put the white sox in the world series. I'm just saying that there are good years to sell and bad years. This year a lot of orgs are competing, and the top ten farms include many of those teams. You don't want to sell when the top ten farm systems are made up mostly of rebuilding clubs, because they aren't going to trade them at that point. Right now BAs top ten farms include Orioles, Dodgers, Guardians, Rangers, Cardinals, Mets. If you are like, the brewers, and decide you are at the end of the rope with this group and farm, you could easily just rake in tons of those orgs top prospects.

But also dylan cease alone is a ridiculous piece to kick off a rebuild. Luis Robert would get you a lot. This actually, given the teams competing, is a good time to rebuild. But the sox have no right to. They need to show they can't rebuild and hopefully resign in disgrace.

The real problem with blowing it all up and starting over is the sox front office still has no strong claim that they have a strong player development or drafting regime in place. Hahn just had the best draft position the white sox have had in 30 years and drafted a bunch of players that not only aren't impactful in the majors, but quickly lost prospect value in the minors. Why give him a rebuild? The mariners had very little in the cupboard to sell when they kicked off their rebuild, but unlike Hahn, when Dipoto switched gears he was able to build a strong farm and player development system that actually looks like it can be sustained. he also appears to want to use his additional budget to sign high impact players not dallas keuchel. This group didn't deserve the first rebuild, nor the second. Definitely not a third. And individually i like getz. And I like shirley. And I like Paddy. But they don't have a competent team above them making sure it's all working together.

I don't really like FIP for relievers and the amount of innings they throw. Joe Kelly missed enough bats that he could certainly be a good reliever next year. He could also be another in the long line of players that have joined the white sox as their last stop before retiring unceremoniously. Annoying to pay a multi-year deal for with that margin. 1 year deal you live with the variance and hope for the best. I have loved joe kelly as a reliever most of his career. Seemed completely unafraid in big moments in the playoffs and after the astros, it seemed only Bummer was that for us. But doesn't matter how unfazed you are if you can't get hitters to believe a pitch is coming over the plate.

But they may not have known a particularly good fit is available, and can’t sign abreu just in the hope one does. But Bell to me isn’t that outlandish. If you take clevinger, remove Vaughn, and add Reynolds, you are at like $172M. $180M is the most likely, but bell is like a $184-188 type signing. Again, unlikely, but actually would be a strong improvement to this years team. But you could also say no to Bell and end up with Sheets/Grandal as 1B. Then you have 8M for some pitching fliers. Hell, get Ryan Noda in rule 5. Regardless, not convinced we are past point of trading Vaughn.

Yeah, I really, really want them to maintain this pick position. Either they get an incredible edge, or enough draft capital to trade for one nearer FA. March - May may be the best bears fun I’ve had since 2018

I would not be surprised by Rays there. Disney money coming in clutch for them.

Sox have historically power year for the franchise. Fans see this and then losing Abreu and think “we should sign Andrew benintendi!”

It was 3/48, you gave bell the abreu contract for some reason. I also said that was his top market expectation. And the Sox doing this would be by far their most effective offseason in hahns tenure, but no they wouldn’t do it. The Sox who just had a bunch of RH hitting corner IF would instead have added a switch hitting 1B and an OF that officially relegates Eloy to DH. Thats a better team in contention. A team could have just re signed abreu and signed Nimmo and traded Vaughn for something but that isn’t the white Sox and sign verlander and do all of that. Are the white Sox likely to re sign a 36 year old to a 3 year deal worth $58 mill? Unlikely. Are they likely to sign a Nimmo for $100+ mill? No shot. Could they sign Josh Bell, a 30 year old DH? Definitely. this plan would be both plausible and make the team better during contention. I’d enjoy that more than watching Colson on a 70 win team in 2026

Ah sorry, eyes jumped past the catcher part of that

Kam Misner

Gets to sideline much better than you’d expect for his athleticism rep.

There was a mutual option called recently. Can’t remember, kikuchi?

Oh no.

Yes would be a much better team. Would be a surprising move.

Believe in the bears d.

Eh I’m with scs. San born is a starter.