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QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Mar 22, 2010 -> 05:20 AM) Don't want to come in here acting ignorant, but can you guys point me somewhere that will explain what this reform does for average folks like myself? it depends on who you are. Age, income, medical history, etc.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Mar 22, 2010 -> 05:09 AM) Hey off the subject here, I believe you said you involved in the census, right. Quick question. Have you or has anyone else here been called for a telephone interview that basically repeats what the 26 page form entails. Just wondering. No, but I don't have a phone. Our form was literally just # in household, age, sex, race.

I think there had to be some time to simmer after the PO died. The b**** back then was lieberman. I think the reason you saw such little action from the left was because we had the numbers, it was just frustrating because it was like " DO YOUR JOBS. WE ELECTED YOU OR AT LEAST FILLED YOUR COFFERS". And then Scott Brown came, and when the left came in contact with literally facing just the status quo, i think they realized what that meant. That's when you saw the million phone calls for reform and the letters fly. That's when Hamsher was marginalized. That's when the tide turned.

ahh well, i'll apply for a job at planned parenthood then.

you have to be old, too. Obviously.

Well, I now have health insurance until 26. No need to get a job then...i'll just collect unemployment and live like a king. Welcome to my utopia

QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 21, 2010 -> 01:29 AM) Well even right now, November looks so bad for the Democrats right now is because of the economy, not because of healthcare, like conservatives like to think right now. People's opinions on healthcare haven't really changed that much except for maybe some conservatives that were open to the idea a year ago aren't anymore and some liberals that wanted more don't like that the bill doesn't have a public option. I'm not saying the economy doesn't hurt, but a lot more of it has to do with the fact that for 2 election cycles the democrats essentially won like every competitive seat and lost none. They have a ton of ground to defend. But yeah, today on the drive back i was listening to the cnn thing on XM radio and that alex castilleniois? guy was implying that now nobody could really consider there to be blue dog democrats or pro life democrats now that they are voting with PELOSI, that chamelion-like, fire-breathing centaur with cockroaches for fingers and children for intestines. It couldn't be that, really, this bill is actually a better representation of the blue dogs point of view than the raging liberals (whom i And no one mentions this fact. No one mentions, even as they talk about how the AMA and all these huge organizations endorse it, along with 60 senators* and a majority of the house, that perhaps this is in fact not a crazy left-wing bill. It's like they didn't see the progression, where a robust public option was in the original bill. BUt whatever. I win anyways.

That's why, as yglesias says, majorities are for doing things.

it doesn't matter anymore, they aren't going to do deem and pass, three votes: the rule, the senate bill, the sidecar.

what is going on here?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 19, 2010 -> 12:35 PM) Greenwald a must read today. EDIT: Apparently it was from yesterday but I wasn't in the office to read it. wait a second, you have a job? Arent' you a hippy vegan? Clearly you should be happy merely surviving on food stamps and welfare. You can make more money that way. What is happening to this world?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 19, 2010 -> 12:35 PM) Greenwald a must read today. EDIT: Apparently it was from yesterday but I wasn't in the office to read it. Pretty much. However, I don't know what they are supposed to do in this situation. For many of these, the status quo is worse, and if you waste any time, you will be out of power in congress. There won't be an overnight progressive revolution in terms of seats, people just need to recognize that this is going to be a long haul. District by district.

I believe it's not 1.3 tril over twenty but rather in the years ten thru twenty. But the cbo states those predictions arenunreliable. But the point is when all mechanisms are in place they see big savings.

THe incredibles was, imo, the best movie. It didn't need jokes. It had a great message for kids. I felt like a really good role model when i took my sister to it. And then i got wastedddddddddddd

that seems to be an effective place to panhandle, however.

and deserve to be called out.

you mean all blacks don't act and believe the same things? Well then, how am I supposed to generalize about them?

embarrassed how hard it was for me to remember. Totally forgot about matt morris and jason schmidt, I forgot a lot more, obviously, but these guys i was completely blanking on. Ahh, the schmidt to the white sox rumors. miss those days

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 04:51 PM) The "slaughter solution" or "deem and pass" which are "non-voting" measures in the Congress actually consist of a vote. The vote is to approve the reconciliation amendment to the Senate bill, and then the house would deem the Senate bill approved. So by voting no to the reconciliation amendment, you are voting no to the Senate bill as well. From what I understand of it, and granted my knowledge of Congressional parliamentary procedure is not the greatest, in either case the Senate bill is considered. It'll be awful hard to talk about the Congress not voting on the bill when they vote on the bill in the "deem and pass" procedure, if that happens. Kucinich announced he's flipping to a yes vote on the Senate bill with reconciliation fixes. Whip count is 208 - Yes. With the Eric Massa resignation, majority in the house is currently 216. 15 Democratic Representatives have yet to commit to voting on this package. Of those 15, 10 of them voted for the original House measure. Unless two of those people flip to no, this passes and health care reform happens. I think it's becoming increasingly clear that stupak was bluffing, he may have some, but his "dozen" was more of a mccarthyesque briefcase.

You are right NSS. In reconciliation, however, you don't need nelson/landrieu, and that's why they won't be put back in.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 04:48 PM) Do we know that yet? the nelson/landrieu ones were indeed.

those incentives were all removed in the sidecar though.

possibly, but bernanke isn't really doing any favors to Obama right now. I think a bigger problem is this new inevitability with the fed, where clearly only one person can run it.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 17, 2010 -> 03:13 PM) Who is Dennis, and voting on what? What's up with the unexplained posts lately? Kucinich was holding out on voting for health care reform (he voted no the first bill, a much more liberal bill, which he said wasn't far enough), and then today at 10 am he declared he'd vote yes. It still boggles my mind that the house has had such trouble passing a more conservative bill than the one they ALREADY PASSED. ridiculous

does your friend really like punk, or just the sample "punk" bands