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When the other argument against a poll is something to the likes of : "well, I think the questioning is kind of misleading and might lead to uninformed answers" "they called on a holiday and didn't get equal representation" "This poll has a pretty high margin of error, I don't think I'd put all my eggs in their basket" or anything remotely related to the actual poll, instead of: yeah well, people lie, so these pollsters probably lied, oh yea sure you can look at the questions they asked but they probably lied about the questions because people lie. Sorry but they do. Then you don't deserve a polite response.This is the third go around of this stupid argument. If you don't believe polls because you are incapable of understanding the methodology, then just admit, don't hide yourself behind "well theyz is probably lyin', I seena heard people do that."

what is that opposed to? Nothing in my argument? Okay, move along.

why did they lead with Aaron Hill?

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 31, 2009 -> 04:44 PM) Yes, you are right. I have deep seeded issues because I don't trust people I do not know. I need not add anything more to that. If I were you I would never buy anything then. Sure, they SAY these are the ingredients, but they could've just lied and put cyanide in it. How do you know? I'd stop buying things, Y2HH, you'll be safer. Also, you might want to put homemade tinfoil over your head.

I ignored the rest because it wasn't based in any sort of fact. You're assumption that they are lying is just a cover up for your inexperience in statistical data and a way for you to explain away your uncomfortableness to yourself. Why would Rasmussen continue to be transparent and show us their leading questions if they could just lie? Because actual people are called, and they can actually get caught, easily, and they can actually go out of business because of this. People pay for these polls. News orgs subscribe to them, if they got caught lying they would be ostracized and not used anymore. The variations in polls result in variations in questioning, to be sure, but also, changes in who was polled, what their sample sizes were, etc. You think that because you are acting cynical to all polls and making silly claims like they could lie about their methodology makes you reasonable, when it just shows the opposite.

QUOTE (NIUSox @ Oct 31, 2009 -> 02:28 PM) Just look at high school and college hockey, all schools have basketball teams but only some to very few have more than club teams in hockey. Since most teams do not own an ice rink, the reason for this is cost. A football field they can use for a couple of sports, an ice rink one, and maintenance/etc. it's unreasonable. The cost to be on the hockey team at my school was absurd.

well, that means you don't trust yourself to have basic knowledge to figure out what polls are reliable and which aren't.

You think someone would've been like, hey, do you want to trade hats, this one doesn't have brains on it.

I think people also don't realize that this emergence of blackhawks popularity is a RE-emergence, and even if we weren't good, the good will that seemed to occur after Wirtz death was already the beginning of a return to the blackhawks. That man really did squeze the souls out of the fans of the sport, myself included. In 91-94, I can remember, even though I was little, Hawks-Wings was a huge deal, covered a lot on the radio, everywhere. Hawks were often front page news. And this was at the height of the bulls. So, I think some of you are just applying a small sample size (98-2007) and projecting it to the blackhawks entire existence.

summarize kap: I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT BUT I'M GOING TO COME ACROSS AS REALLY ANGRY AND SURE OF MYSELF SO YOU THINK I DO!!!!

Seriously can we move on? This polls are not to be trusted argument is among the dumbest that continues to get hold in the filibuster. Polls not to be trusted/are obviously biased: Anything showing people believe in global warming any showing a democrat in the lead any showing the public option popular Did I miss any? Let's move on.

we just came off an election where Nate Silver used polls to nail, almost to a tee, what the election would look like. This argument is ridiculously stupid. Anyone that took a basic level stats class can learn to understand an effective poll.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Oct 30, 2009 -> 04:11 PM) And you are assuming that was a legit poll. Polls can say what you want them to say. Only if you are incapable of understanding neutral poll questions and are too lazy to read the language/results of the poll.

now their slaps on the wrist will be known!!

hey sorry if this is redundant/has been covered, whats the eta on toews? Is it kind of up in the air?

I seem to remember the hawks/wings game at wrigley last year, like, shutting down the northside as I was trying to leave. If that's just die hards, that's a hell of a lot of die hards.

what was dye's injury?

In other words, tex would have no problems funneling government money into a private business you own through gov't contracts...k.

also, curious as to why lieberman was on record as something different some few years ago...before his wife's position.

Yep. And torture. and DADT.

why do people think TI was so important to this joke? was I f*** you in an austrian accent not good enough?

they denied me so I hope their program burns to the ground in a fiery blaze.

I cannot stop laughing at this...so many funny parts - keeping the sex toys and viagara "just in case", flashing his badge which led them to calling the police officer's coworker wife, the sex spot being the cemetary...I'd put this in general b/c I think it's funny no matter, but I don't want lectures about how "all party members do this" - I don't care, this story is funny politician or not...but way funnier this way... http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/...#more?ref=fpblg

yeah, man, it's been really tough for republicans to get their message out. They have no where to go to, no one lets them on sunday talk shows, theirs no network to pump their point of view, they have no radio programs, no one even knows they are there.

Is there a reason WHY it's such a hitters league? Do more top hitters go there than pitchers. Is it strictly arizona weather + small stadiums?