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per WSJ: "The selection process has become increasingly cumbersome as the aura around the prize has grown. There are now between 150 and 200 nominations every year: This year saw a record 205." So, his nomination isn't a surprise.
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 04:38 PM) Obama has been speaking about peace the entire year, not sure why he couldnt win the award? Who cares that he was only President for 10 days, you can win the award and not be President. it was just the nomination, as well, and as I've stated, that was 8 days after his exec. order to shut down Guantanimo and he outlawed torture...not surprising you could get a nomination for that.
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EHhhhh, Rwanda is a big black eye IMO for Clinton.
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Shocked that Swayze never one for bringing peace to that road house bar devastated by violence. Thought they could award it post-humously.
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For the record, I'd be in favor for any president from here on out to use their platform to help fellow american cities AND individuals in international competitions.
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Pretty sure i've always seen him prefaced with Nobel Peace Prize winner Nelson Mandela also: Mandela foundation welcomes the award! http://www.timeslive.co.za/news/article144428.ece
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QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 03:27 PM) I wasn't sure how to respond, but luckily the emoticon is described at "headbang" so that was all the guidance necessary. Perhaps I was too slow in my response. can't stop laughing, haha
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QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 03:22 PM) I think a merger is in order. You can post in the nobel thread, as long as it follows the original alphabetical game rules.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 03:16 PM) Hey he was the one who couldn't leave because of health care. I guess winning the Nobel and chasing the Olympics changes that? Like I said before it was stupid when McCain tried it during the election, and it was stupid of Obama to say. Of course no one is really bringing that up over and over again like during the election in the media... While I agree with your point, Obama was wrong to shield himself with that, This bill is really not at the point where it's in his hands (points for obviousness)...it isn't the time for him to make his play.
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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 03:13 PM) I didn't realize the President was responsible for creating the bill and approving it. Seriously! Jesus, here's when I want Obama to let himself known, when the bill goes to the house and senate to merge a single bill. And then he can make his deals for votes. WHY WOULD HE DO THAT NOW?
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btw it looks like thunderbolt has beat out kap for hyperbole by a large margin. I mean, Kap looks like a nobel peace winner compared to thunderbolt. Love ya.
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Seriously, Reddy, I know it's popular right now to be saying the Administration should be twisting more arms on health care, but I guarantee you health care has gotten as far as it has because 1) Dem majority 2) they've left it to the legislators. Congress has to do this a lot on its own. Now he's sending his team to twist the arms, and now is the time to, if he did it in conference, it would have been a mess. Congress is our legislative body. He set the Agenda, they have to sort out the bill. He is doing this the right way.
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QUOTE (Reddy @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 02:52 PM) dude if you were paying ANY attention during the election, you'd know Obamania did exist. People voted for him without ANY knowledge of ANY of his policies. Hope they said. He's hopeful. And yes, I know that this sort of thing happens in many elections, but it doesn't get people who have NEVER voted before to register. That part was new. In any case, yes I know there has been criticism, but there has always been this air of "he can fix everything" about Obama. And one other thing is that he seems to like being a celebrity president and that adds to the "Obamania". I mean, commercials with him and George Lopez? Come the f*** on. How bout spend that day working on health care instead of shooting a dumbass commercial for a bad comedian. The election was a long time ago. Especially considering I'm dealing with the August town halls.
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Jan 22 (two days after in office) Obama puts plans to end Guantanimo Bay The leading black eye on america, a site of torture and kafka-esque trialization was enough to get nominated. Since then, clearly this wasn't what should win the award, but the non-nuclear proliferation is a big step for the WINNING.
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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 02:48 PM) Would you like to miss the point anymore, or do you want me to step in and lead you in the right direction? Obama’s success is fueled by his image, the idea, that he gets rewarded for doing nothing, doesn’t help that. It severely hampers his prestige throughout the world, because every single rational man on the planet knows that he did nothing to deserve this award. No you are right, of awful things that could happen to a person, i've consistently stated that getting a 1.3 million dollar award along with a prestigious medal is among the top. I pray to GOD EVERYDAY to not let me win the nobel peace prize.
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QUOTE (Reddy @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 02:44 PM) as a Dem, I'm thoroughly confused and slightly annoyed. I hate this kind of blind faith, and I thought we'd gotten past all the Obamania. But I guess we haven't quite... shame. Essentially with all this godliness we're heaping on Obama, it's going to be impossible for him to "succeed". How bout he's just a man. A very powerful man, but a man nonetheless. Not to mention one with a pitiful congress backing him up. But that's for another time. Yes, a very, very, very powerful man. The US president shapes world policy. Everyone has to react to how we are going to go about things. There's a reason the rest of the world knows so much about our political leaders. Can we stop acting llike Obamania exists? The guy is getting criticized way more than he is getting praised, this has been happening consistently for the past 4 months at least. CNN ran a fact check over whether his comparison to hitler was legit.
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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 02:39 PM) This is one of the worse things that could have happened for Obama. It completly reinforces the idea that he's famous for being "Not Bush." HAHA REALLY? THIS is one of the worst things that could have happened for Obama? Not an Israeli strike on Iran? Not another banking collapse? Not 20% unemployment? GETTING THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE ARE YOU SERIOUS!!
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"he's a celebrity, not a leader" response: "tots, it's disgusting how many celebrities continue to get the nobel peace prize"
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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 02:31 PM) But a lot of the left probably would have been. They certainly were when he was nominated. There was also a campaign to get BUsh nominated.
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Is it a surprise? Jim and Pam have ruined the show. Love isn't funny. I mean, romantic comedies aren't funny, and they even still aren't about perfect relationships where they get along really well.
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QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 02:26 PM) When one party stands up for what they believe and fight tooth and nail against the other party, I respect and applaud those efforts. (GOP and health care for a recent example) But when one party attacks instead of applauds or even should be sitting quietly, that's just wrong. One rabid republican just posted it should be called the Nobel piece of s*** prize on my fb. The thing is, if Bush won a nobel for his AIDS work, I wouldn't have been talking crap on him. That was one thing he did that I was an ardent supporter of.
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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 9, 2009 -> 02:24 PM) As much as I was rallying against us getting the bid my initial reaction was sadness. I guess deep down I really wanted them and was just annoyed with Daley and his corruption. I understand, BS, and there's also a "We can talk s*** about our city, but don't you dare talk s*** about our city" factor
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Drill baby, Drill
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" The following is the text of the announcement on Friday by the Norwegian Nobel Committee giving the Nobel Peace Prize to President Barack Obama: "The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons. "Obama has as president created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened. "Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population. "For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges." " Nobel Prize Committees explanation.
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