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That you went so seamlessly from "fauci was following the scientific method on masks" to "yes we all knew about fauci lying about masks" to "fauci was right to lie about masks" makes me want to avoid spending too much time on this. However, I think the bolded is illustrative on the failure of the CDC and Fauci. His inability to provide guidance on mitigating the risk of covid vs. fully preventing covid meant we were getting really inconsistent rationales for what to follow. For some reason, it was very important to wash our hands. There wasn't a lot of info that we had of it spreading this way, but it was common sense to remove that layer of risk, so they were very clear: wash your hands. But when it came to masks? Outdoor vs indoor? Continued to hedge that both posed risks of getting it, so really best advice is just to avoid. Made no sense. Cloth masks do not refer to the surgery masks. They are referring to https://mackweldon.com/products/2-pack-silver-mask? Check it out, an underwear company using the fabric they have available to layer and make masks. Just like my old neighbors in April 2020 used their sewing machine to make the block masks. Saying that covering your mouth would help prevent infecting others (known at the time to Fauci) would have been valuable information that saved peoples lives. The government could have absolutely prevented private consumers from buying PPE and at the same time said "home made masks will help". Those cheap surgery masks? Those are fine for regular people going in and out. It is not N-95, it will not 95% keep you from getting covid if you had contact with it, but it does in reduce the likelihood. The swiss cheese model was not being applied from fauci and the cdc. We got "wash your hands" from them and stay away. If you had to go to see someone, was the CDC/Fauci helpful in letting you know to go outside instead? Not really, very inconsistent guidance on air flow and importance of ventilation until I think...January 2021.

With Mize, we just need to make sure it's a 5 IP outing so we can get as much det bullpen as possible.

would really like some LHP talent to arrive this draft.

Do I want to? No. Are there players in baseball that I would trade Kopech for? Absolutely.

I think that applies to a lot of stuff, but I think there was a real problem of western public health communications (so, broader than US) on masks (the attributing of asian mask-practice as spiritual, etc) and their just unbelievably slow adoption of communicating it being airborne. It is really incredibly frustrating that they were willing to apply logic to hand-washing of "this is typically how virus' spread so we are providing strict hand washing and hygiene guidance" but for airborne there was good data that made it likely if not proven that airborne was a key vector, but they stuck to the heavy-droplet 6 ft rule. Because airborne wasn't proven. And why? Because it was their opinion that Americans would adopt that easier, instead of giving them accurate guidance. Now, I assume that quarantine would be a no-go in trump admin and cause revolt, but it was also a no-go in UK and many european countries. But none really tried aside from travel. So it may not all be Fauci's fault, but he is the guy that has been there for a while and these are key issues that caused them to fail, and I don't see him being the driver of change.

Right I suppose you may limit superstar to like top ten position players in game but Yelich at 24 was a top ten outfielder and had 3(?) years control so certainly in the ballpark of who you'd choose to trade a kopech for today though not sure there is anyone who translates too closely.

While he probably wasn't a superstar and was likely the kind of guy that 2016/2017 mlb GMs probably overvalued, he was a Center Fielder with a pretty bankable 120 wRC+, which as we may have noticed when Robert went down, many teams do not have.

Fauci's job isn't to protect the economic standing of the American manufacturing industry, and being reliant on China for cheap goods isn't near the problem that, you know, a deadly pandemic that was sweeping through the country is/was. It doesn't matter if it was ready, lying about the role low-grade masks could play in stopping spread did not solve the manufacturing problem. When the word started getting out through non-official channels, church groups and private groups started sewing cloth masks, that obviously could have happened in february and does not effect anything. Their mask communication likely exacerbated the effects on the American meatpacking industry by telling their workers masks didn't help them while they were forced to work. The supply issue wasn't a problem solved by Fauci's misleading communication, so there is no reason to defend it. Americans in March / April 2020 were in fact very deferential to the needs of medical workers, so saying "we need all the N-95 and surgical masks for medical workers and first responders, but if you are in need of going to work or public wearing a cloth mask can help us stop the spread".

Was not an impossible task, and lying didn’t solve the shortage and communicating accurately could have led to the many private businesses making cloth masks to do it earlier.

After this year? Feels like he'd pull rip his groin clean off in start 1 and we'd see him in a year.

cool stuff cool stuff. I don't know what your point is, obviously yes there are other people in the world and Gottlieb was as prominent as any of those people you mentioned, but the point is someone in fauci's position should have the best data and the team available to be the best communicator and he made a number of really bad mistakes and hopefully in the review of the pandemic we have some thought around what communications and responsibility we provide public health officials and which are better handled by different departments.

was he not in enough yahoo news articles for you?

It is a funny hypothetical. Sox inherit the Ohtani injury risk but he offers - Unbelievable upgrade vs RHP - Another #2/3 starter OR the same kopech spot starter / long man role. Giolito/Lynn/Ohtani/Rodon/Keuchel ? September lineup of Anderson/Eloy/Moncada/Abreu/Ohtani/Robert/Eaton/Grandal/Madrigal hotflashes...hot, hot flashes.

This isn't true, and I think Fauci should retire because he absolutely did do a number of "noble lies". They were discouraging masks didn't work because they worried about supply chain, which is an example of things a lot of public health spokesman would do a lot this pandemic. Gottlieb was 10x the communicator during the pandemic, despite being on the board for a company that actually stood to benefit which is quite disappointing.

Here's a fun one: Would you trade Vaughn and Kopech for Shohei Ohtani (FA 2024).

There were rumors from sox he had a velo increase that appear unfounded but I thought I remember at W-S he had really regressed to just topping out at 90. Because he's a lefty, he has decent chance to be depth but not someone I think is a 40 man guy this offseason. McClure because of his weird height I think could be a bullpen guy sooner than later.

So...a superstar with control

I think @DirtySox said he was 93-94 a few starts ago which plays. Hopefully he can maintain late into year.

Lopez 3 walks in 1.2 IP ?

Sorry who is our evening pitcher? edit: I was completely confused by sox tweet, which I took to mean that today was somehow another double header and they were keeping the evening game, not the schedule for the september game.

would love to be the translator for this discussion between doctor and patient.

Good game for Davis Martin again in WS, and Mieses comes back hitting with a homer in Kanny. Kanny may actually win a game

Mieses and mendoza should add some more capable offense in Kanny. Going from DSL -> Kanny was pretty brutal to BB, but hopefully he finds himself in AZ.

In case anyone missed it, some movement today. Benyamin Bailey was moved down to AZL, luis mieses was moved down to Kanny were among the more notable. Dawkins was moved down from BIRM to WS.

Let’s get greedy!