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Man its rough looking back and being like "I miss the john fox era". Certainly a push that Dan Quinn, while maybe not the long term savior, would have done what fox did and bring in a great coaching staff. Obviously defensively you had the single most influential d coordinator of the decade in Fangio, and him bringing in Donatell. You had future head coach Brandon Staley. The eagles coordinator and bears future d coord in Sean Desai. Frank Smith was our TE coach and now the OC under McDaniel. Dave Ragone is the OC for the Falcons. Clint Hurtt is the longtime DC of the Seahawks. Our offensive quality control coach Ben McDaniels is now the passing game coordinator for the Texans. John Dunn was an quality control coach that is now the Packers TE coach. Jeff Rogers is the Assistant Head Coach for the AZ cardinals and ST coach. Obviously coaches find work, and some of these guys gained more valuable experience elsewhere in the 6 years since. But thinking about this situation now where we don't even have a guy you'd make interim coach and...eesh. I still think the obvious candidate would be Chris Morgan.

He also had a SB it looks like.

I do think organizational is true. I think a lot of the problem is a failure to wrangle players that entered the org as aggressive, but it’s shocking that they can’t even get a profile like Vaughn to be more selective and walk more thru better information and help. I am of the mind, given the Sox limited options, that firing Steverson was a mistake.

I think Katz strategy of avoiding balls in play at all cost makes a lot of sense given the defense behind our pitchers and the collection of arms collected/underdeveloped.

man everytime I see our record I gasp.

They aren't blocking anyone so I don't see the point in trading them. They aren't valuable. Eloy could net something if he re-emerges as a 135 wRC+ guy. I still think that would be him in a different org.

I don't think it's that ridiculous to fire eberflus and keep getsy. Certainly a less dumb decision than firing both at once.

Jeff Saturday happened last year.

I tend to agree…unless they pull a Saturday?

While that’s weird re: Stevenson, Eberflus has described wanting long fast athletes. He just doesn’t use them to their strengths.

that play by play call was terrible.

thought this was interesting vs our strategy of "let our players play anywhere so long as they hit left handed"

Yes many GMs make moves.

I don't see a point in that.

It's actually astonishing how bad this team is at the major league level. Definitely the time for a culture reset. Hunting and pecking to test out how scouting can work better with your new coaching staff/pd team. If you are going to go all-in on Bannister/Katz, you should spend FA dollars to test them this first year. Younger pitchers - that's a different set of coaches. Players to test (Flaherty, Giolito, Brad Keller*, Luke Weaver, Joe Ross, maybe Severino, Heaney, Wacha, Odorizzi) and i'm sure there will be a bunch in that range. Position player wise? I think you are opportunistic, but this is honestly the worst FA crop I've ever seen?

I'll say this kinda for where my head is at - not that people care. I really don't care that much about the ML level next year. Getz can perk my ear up if he substantially builds out his minor league operation. That he has a real outside AGM is cool, but it's GOOD he's also gonna bring out a farm director. But I want a lot more out of that whole group, more people to the oversight level, more people to implement the changes and communicate it to the players. There is no point acting like the future of enjoyment for us will be on the major league level next year. Sorry to Lenyn, Carlos

Emery got 3 years though didn't he? (2012, fired lovie, 2013-14)

For me the end-all, be-all for Poles staying comes down to what Kevin Warren believes happened during the coach hiring process. I'd again go back to the bears final 3, and how none of their other finalists have HC gigs, despite them hiring early and it being a pretty successful coaching class. For Poles, I'm getting some sashi brown vibes, and timing could hurt him. I think a lot of his team building activities have been defensible, but that can run into really poor timing. - The FA class last year really was rough. But there were SOME "problem solver" players in Javon Hargrove, but his 'sashi' tendencies did not have him go hard after a guy at 30. As a whole, his lack of interest in bringing in actually productive veterans who are too old has led to so many holes even young guys look lost. - From a high level, there were few real difference makers found in FA last year on defense. Hargrove was one. Walker isn't actually terrible on run defense, and Billings actually has been good. But there are huge problems when the bears choose Rasheem Green, Robinson, and Ngakouwe and they are performing this bad. Is that bad scouting or coaching? Is Rasheem green actually better than Gipson, who actually sacked someone? Looking at walker isn't even the only lens. - What has killed Poles in the draft, imo, is that the fans had preferences that were in fact better choices. There is a huge sliding doors thing with PIckens, where he like...prevents you from trading for Claypool. Fans often circled Berhard Raimann in round 2, and he fell to round 3. Would that have allowed them to draft Jalen Carter next year? As a whole, the draft classes are too young to really know, but again, that was true of Sashi. - By same token, fans screamed in FA for a center like Ethan Pocic...they say the can fix it in house...they were wrong. Money wasn't a problem there, they just were too conservative. I guess my bullish case for Poles is that whomever takes over actually has a hell of a jumping off point. In the browns, John Dorsey got to take over with picks 1, 4. A more mature roster. A lot of cap space, and started bringing in vets so that it wasn't so chaotically young. Perhaps the browns would have been just as good had he stayed. Maybe they take Josh Allen instead of Baker. The next FA class is much more likely to see some star players like Chris Jones and Christian Wilkins who cannot be tagged and/or have extremely stressed teams. (Sweat/Burns i'm gonna say is unlikely). Bryce Huff, Chase Young are very possible to arrive as well. Connor Williams may arrive as a 26 year old dominant center. Perhaps you draft Fashanu, perhaps you get a guy later. There are things here that could make big leaps with this historically good draft class, and better luck in what gets thru to FA. And maybe poles looks like he redeemd himself. Or maybe we are happy that a new GM is a bit more aggressive in actually fixing problems, which makes every unit look stronger. I"m actually open to either. I think Poles has done some things to stay, but the hiring of Eberflus was so bad, and perhaps was influenced by his agent, that I'm ok with going elsewhere.

Sucks they couldn’t have hired Rich Bisaccia like was rumored because that’d have been an easy move

Depends if Justin Fields is the QB

Hell yeah great season BamaDoc. Minor leagues gonna be huge next year

"my deep dive analysis has indicated our boat has a lot of holes, so we would like to buy a bigger boat with holes to sink slower"

I gotta tell you, now that he has dragged other people into the boat with him, I feel greater hope he succeeds. Otherwise this is a hostage situation he manipulated them in. Don't they know they can never leave?

buddy, we are fighting for 9th-10th

biggest issue with Jrue is there is no salary we can fit that makes sense.