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I just dont hold the same level of confidence that some of you do that Damaso can bounce back. The guy started to decline in 04 and just was flat out awful last year as well. There is something wrong with him even though his stuff is still there, there is something wrong upstairs. He's finished, imo.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 04:33 PM) \ I would expect maybe 1.7-2 mil a year, maybe more(could be off) He'll actually most likely get even less then that. Fantastic post, I agree with every single word of it.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 03:42 PM) If used correctly( which I think Oz would in this case) Myers and Ozzie were made for each other.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 01:32 PM) On the Score, George Offman is saying that the backup plan to losing Konerko could be Troy Glaus or Hank Blalock. Looks like they want someone who can play 3B and 1B. Crede's back must not be too healthy. I don't think there is any doubt that the Sox are worried about Joe's back. Troy Glaus would be a great backup plan to Paul imo, Hank Blalock....meh.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 01:03 PM) Post 49 in this thread has a statement that Uribe K's too much. I don't want to butcher the cut/paste, so I'll just refer to post 49. Oh, my bad. You quoted my post so I thought you were referring to something I said. I apologize.

Rest them. As cool as it would be to go undefeated..winning the superbowl is the only thing that matters. One injury during a meaningless game and all the sudden there goes your shot at winning it all.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 12:50 PM) I still think it will be Juan Pierre (who I don't want on the Sox). And for people saying Uribe K's too much....SO DOES IGUCHI! Who said Uribe k'd to much? Iguchi gets on base at a better clip then Juan and he also can control the bat much better then Uribe. I love Juan but he can't handle the bat, he has no clue where he's trying to hit the ball half the time. He's just not a good 2 hitter.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 12:47 PM) who hits number 2 because i have a feeling it's not gonna be Iguchi this year. It'll be Iguchi unless Owens is somehow the starting cf which I highly doubt or if we trade for a 2 hitter. He's still a much better option then Juan.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 12:42 PM) My Ideal Lineup for next season: 1. Pods LF 2. Uribe SS 3. Thome 1B 4. Thomas DH 5. Iguchi 2B 6. Dye RF 7. Crede 3B 8. Pierzynski C 9. Anderson CF I would rather spend money on Frank and strengthen the bench than pay Konerko $14 Million now that we got Thome. Sign a good bench player like LeCroy or trade for Stairs. Both of those can step in if Frank gets hurt again and they both have a lot of pop. Uribe is way, way to streaky to hit 2nd.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 09:41 AM) The only thing that scares me with Boston is them screwing up the asking price. I really dont think Paul has any desire to play for Boston,and thats why im not taking the O's rumors to heart. However, if Boston does unload Manny to lets say the Mets, then Boston goes ga ga over Paul, even if Paul doesnt want to go there, if Boston makes him an offer of 5/67, it could screw everything up. I guess we will just have to wait and see..... Agreed 100 percent here. Paul will not go to Boston but they could drive up his market.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 08:41 AM) http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Baseball/MLB/Tor...328885-sun.html Ridiculous. Giles is definitely worth 11 million imo, but for 5 years?? Come on now.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 01:40 AM) All I need to know is who would play 3rd base. That's a ridiculous trade proposal. I wasn't even looking at the trade proposal that was made, I was just answering his question.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 08:21 AM) So basically its come down to us and LAAAAAA going to try and outbid each other. Suprise, Suprise..... who didnt see this coming? Steve Phillips.

This thread is an attempted jinx, isn't it?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 12:24 AM) See, I don't want Nomar as our everyday thirdbaseman. He's a HUGE downgrade defensively from Crede, and that alone is worth a lot of runs. The reason I like Nomar is because (IMO) he'd be able to play one positions pretty well (1B, with a whole Spring Training there under his belt), DH (duh), and two other positions not extremely well, but he wouldn't kill us out there (3B, and to a lesser extent, SS). He's versatile in not just where he can play in the IF, but also where he can be put in the lineup. You could probably pencil him in anywhere from the #2 spot to the #6 spot. I completely agree with you here. I understand why you have Nomar hitting in the 2 hole but if he is the backup plan and that plan comes into play, I'd like to see him hit 3rd and keep gooch in the 2 hole. Like you said though, that's why Nomar would be a solid pickup because you could slot him just about anywhere.

QUOTE(timotime @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 12:03 AM) one, generally (not just you rangercal), why is there such a hatred of crede's agent? what will boras do that other agents wouldnt? two, i have to strongly disagree with you on the crede AND marte for pierre. for lack of a better analogy, we would be greasing up and bending over on that one. The White Sox won't deal with Scott Boras, that's all you need to know.

Congrats.

QUOTE(Mansoo @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 10:44 PM) what about this trade?? Hank Blalock,Adrian Gonzalez Joe Crede,Freddy Garcia Adrian Gonzalez has decent skill in 1B Hank Blalock>Joe Crede .............. :puke

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 06:00 PM) Wagner is 34 years old and he will be 38 by the time his contract is up. You're good.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 05:57 PM) I'm not totally sure how to read the numbers...but somehow I think you and I have to be looking at different numbers. In 2005, when I sort by "runs scored", McAfee is ranked 28th...and RFK is ranked 23rd. Coors field is naturally ranked first. By just that metric, the way I'm looking at the data...McAfee gave up fewer runs on average than RFK. I guess I have to be wrong somewher,e but I don't see where that comes out of the numbers I'm seeing at all. The link you just gave us has completely different numbers then you're seeing.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 05:52 PM) ??? Do you know how to read these park factors? Oakland had 1.2% more runs scored than the average park, and had almost 9% more HRs than the average park. RFK had 14% fewer runs scored, and 22% fewer HRs than the average park. Thought I was going crazy for a second.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 05:44 PM) Well, at least last year...Washington was probably a better hitting park than Oakland, at least if you take the park factor points without analysis What am I missing here? Looks like the Colleseum was easier to hit in by far.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 05:37 PM) Loaiza was pretty good last year. I don't think he'll have a 5 era at all RFK is an extreme pitchers park and his numbers on the road were pretty brutal. That plus going back to the AL, I fully expect his era to be right around 5.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 03:47 PM) There was an article on Jon Scheyer in ESPN the Magazine. I read the article and thought it was kinda s***ty. They called it a Hickoryesque state title, I was a little offended. The article focused on how he 'betrayed' Illinois by going to Duke. Believe me I hate Duke, but it's hard to turn them down, especially when you grow up a Duke fan as a kid like Scheyer. Meanwhile, the Spartans are 4-0 after sweeping the Lake-Cook Thanksgiving Tournament. Scheyer has scored over 30 in all 4 games and is averaging around 35 I think. For the record, Scheyer got rocked at the health club near me. True story.