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QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 12:32 PM) I think Burrnet will be on the block, and with Eddies ??? situation with his shoulder, I don't think its going to take alot to get him. Add to the fact I really have it in my head that this franchise wants to deal Marte, Eddie will take his role on. I think something just like this could go down. I'm not disagreeing with you, just wondering why you have it etched in your mind that Damaso will be traded?

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 12:29 PM) I honestly think this senerio could REALLY, REALLY happen. Sox land A.J Burrnet for Marte,Bmac, and OF prospect(don't think Anderson or Sweeny because of Bmac in the deal.) Sox get Guardado(take Marte's LHP role.) If that happened Tony you wouldn't be able to wipe a smile off my face for a long f'n time.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 12:27 PM) Ok, lets assume...Marte, Tracey or Gio, and Sweeney for Burnett. Who here pulls the trigger on that deal? I'm basing this off what Rosenthal said the Marlins were interested in (in terms of pieces) as well as the fact that the Sox would refuse to give up Bmac. If thats the case I'd pull the trigger on this deal, however I'd hope the Sox would try to reup with AJ. All that said, even if they didn't I'd still be really tempted to make this trade, especially if they then pulled the trigger on a deal for Wagner or another solid left handed reliever. Marte is good, but Burnett is very good and would give the Sox a filthy rotation. I'd do it assuming either another left hander is added to the pen or kenny finally just says f*** it, kevin walker sucks I don't care if he throws with his left hand or his ass he's just bad.

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 12:26 PM) wait theres only 24 hrs left till the deadline

QUOTE(go-sox05 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 12:26 PM) Burnett had 14 strikeouts yesterday. Has 111 on the year. Yeah he's alright. That performance by Burnett yesterday is overrated. I'm a fan of AJ, no doubt but not because of what he did yesterday.

I'd love Burnett but would hate to lose Damaso unless of course Guardado was acquired, ok now I'm just going nuts.

I'd prefer a White Sox vs. Insert NL team here world series. If the sox got in to the series I could care less who they face.

QUOTE(TheBlackSox8 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 11:45 AM) A sweep puts the Sox at 60 wins for 1/2 way. I'm not saying, I'm just saying. Go SOX Oakland's obviously been hot as hell but if we're going to to do it, we have the right 3 guys going.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 11:58 AM) College is overrated Can you call my mommy and daddy and tell them that.

You guys have to do this right when I have to go to college don't you. Thanks a lot :rolly

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 11:49 AM) If you had to trade a current core guy on the squad for a chance at Rocket[hypothetically speaking] or for another guy that you think could extremely help this team, who would it be??? Here's the choices: Pods Arow Dye Crede Uribe Iguchi Konerko Pierzynski Thomas Anyone in our pitching staff minus Jenks and Walker. No one.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 11:44 AM) I'm still laughing at the 8.5 mil Contreras makes. Ya, but just look at Jermaine, Carl, Scotty, Aj, Tad, Mark are making, that's highway robbery. I also see Garland was designated for assignment and Felix Diaz was recalled

Welcome, welcome.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 11:25 AM) Its just a rehash of the Southtown article. However, I can't say I'd give up Bobby Jenks because I Think he can help the team now, plus when your keeping your payroll down and are already spending big bucks in your starting rotation, I think its apparent you got to develop relievers from within (cause you can't afford to go out to FA for both, imo). Cotts and Jenks can be two of the better relievers in baseball and the Sox will be able to control them for a while. Of course Politte and Hermy were pretty nice FA pickups, lol. On a sidenote, Alou keeps talking about how good the Giants pen will be next year. I do think the Giants will have some interest in Willie Harris, especially since I think Ray Ray will be traded (he's having a good year too). Having Hermy, Cliff, Neal, Damaso and Jenks all atleast through next year makes me giddy

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 11:18 AM) I didn't see his last start but I saw you talking about how he pitched pretty well despite the stats. The big thing I have noticed is that his secondary stuff looks there. The only thing is he's struggling with his velocity (but that could definately come back as his arm gets closer to 100%). At the same time when his command is on (and he had been rolling up until that previous start) he's still dynomite. He has good movement and is a total beast. Like I say I'd trade a few of the Sox top prospects for him, but I'd also be quite interested in Omar. I love Uribe to death but Omar is a leader that could help this team while Uribe could turn into a super utility guy giving the Sox incredible depth. Plus he can spell Crede at 3rd at times. I don't necessarily have a problem with it and I don't think Omar is the kind of guy that would have any type of negative impact on chemistry. On top of that I really think he'd help this team down the stretch and hopefully in the postseason as well. Obviously he's signed for a year too long, but whose to say the Sox can't acquire him for this year and than trade him off to someone else later on. Omar is hitting .303 in a pitchers park. Drop him to the 9 spot or even slide him to the 2 slot, moving Guchi down, regardless, it would give the Sox a little bit more pop and we all know he can play D (so can Uribe though). It also gives the Sox an extra weapon if anyone goes down (knowing you can plug Uribe in at any of the infield positions). The move would spell the end for Willie though because right now Ozuna >>>> Willie. What you said about Schmidt is dead on. My take on his last outing was it was just one of those games that all pitchers have, he just couldn't find the strike zone. Anyways on to Omar, I have a great deal of respect for Omar and I agree he wouldn't mess up team chemistry, however that contract scares me off a bit, don't want to be stuck with him for another 2 years. I love Juan defensively and it'd be really hard for me to change that left side of the infield unless you're getting an all out stud. Omar is damn good, I just don't know if it'd be worth it but that's just my take.

I finally managed my way into insider here's the little blurb: South Side short order? The Jason Schmidt-to-the-White Sox rumors won't die, and any potential deal with San Francisco could be expanded to include shortstop Omar Vizquel, the Daily Southtown reports. While Vizquel isn't currently available, that could change if/when the fourth-place Giants decide to call it a season before the end of the month. "I prefer to fly stealth," Sox GM Ken Williams told the newspaper, regarding the trade speculation. The Sox had Vizquel at the top of their wish list last winter, only to have the Giants step in with a better offer. Shortstop Juan Uribe has been a disappointment thus far, while Vizquel remains as consistent as ever at 38 and he is a Venezuelan native like Chicago manager Ozzie Guillen.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 11:11 AM) Good god, I'll puke if the Sox deal Cotts. You don't trade him, the guy is so freaking good. He's the best reliever this club has next to Politte and Hermy and he has the ability to be even better. What a luxury to say that Neal cotts is our 3rd best reliever and he has an era in the 1's.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 11:09 AM) I tend to think the Sox are in a holding pattern with the Giants and I also think there is at least some smoke to the whole Vizquel/Schmidt possibilities. Both would be very nice addition to this club, but the question for Schmidt is the cost. I still think Schmidt has a lot left in him and this is his first season of not being an ace in the past couple. As long as he has a clean bill of health, I'd pick him up. However, I'd make damn sure if I gave up Bmac/Anderson and one other prospect that I'd be getting Omar as well. Have you seen him pitch recently?? If so what did you think of his stuff? I saw his last start where he got bombed but I was impressed with his stuff, imo you'll see him really start to improve here in the next few weeks.

My insider account is all fudged up right now because of friends using it as well as me but the rumor is from the southtown so I'm sure someone here could find the article.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 09:52 AM) Ouch, that's rough. If you watched the show, you'd like her...its impossible not to. Bingo. I didn't think much of her until I turned on smallville once, she's beautiful.

Welcome aboard but I don't think your name is going to go over well here

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) Yacker I'm so happy you used the word yacker

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 10:55 AM) Jenks has a change or at least he did back in the Angel organization. He also used to dab with a slider. The funny thing about Jenks was he almost had what you'd call 4 plus pitches as a starter and thats why so many guys really liked him. IIRC the Angels organization wanted him to take some pressure of his arm and he kind of stopped using the slider. I'm not sure if he throws it much at all anymore. As far as the change goes, its still an inconsistent pitch but I know it was something he worked on a lot in the Angels system. Once again can't speak too much about how often he used it in Bham, but I don't think it was near as much as he did in Anaheim. I'm assuming since he's in the pen he realized you just go with your couple very best pitches. However, this guy could be the next Gagne, especially if he mixed in a decent change every once in a while. Of course the key to him will be command and health. I was just going off of what bham said since he's seen him pitch the most and he never mentioned the change but maybe since all of his other pitches were so impressive he jsut didn't feel need to mention it.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 10:54 AM) I just think we need to forget about past middle infielders from Cleveland for a while. Uribe's more than sufficient enough for the 9 spot, IMO. Completely agree. The left side of our infield is to damn good to mess with.

By the way the Vizquel-Schmidt rumor is from the southtown. Not sure exactly what it says but I know it's from there.