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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 05:43 PM) Where on earth would you get that idea? If 14 doesn't re-up, then they're going to be even more desperate for a 1b/DH next year. I guess Kotsay could be available and Dunn could play 1b. Because we're going to sign a 1b one way or another it appears. I'll agree with Fathom on this one. I'm still hoping for D.Lee and a reliever or two with the extra money but I surely wont complain if PK is brought back at a reasonable price.

Konerko has every right to wait and try to get the best deal possible, the White Sox also have every right to move on. Derrek Lee should be option A anyways.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 09:13 PM) My friends and i have gone to a Brunswick Zone that had all you could play Laser tag for like ten bucks on wednesday nights and the place had a bar, it was an excellent time. Ya, there was a bar right across the street that we went to before and after, like I said, good times. QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 01:48 AM) Talked to the girl that saw my penis the other night. Described it a "ferociously cute." I have no idea what that means. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH and might I add HA

QUOTE (scenario @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 11:59 PM) Didn't hear B&B today, but I heard KW say something very similar to that in an interview today... And the context I heard it in was KW explaining why he didn't want to talk about the problems between he and Ozzie. Could be two separate events. But the wording was pretty similar. I literally have 0 clue what the context of it was, I just got that text from my buddy saying that's what he said to Rogers.

The Pats are definitely good but the Jets, Ravens and Steelers can all beat them in the playoffs.

QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 08:37 PM) Anyone hear KW snapping on Phil Rogers earlier? I guess they played it on B&B, I'd like to know what he said. My buddy sent me a text quoting KW as saying: "I'm more optimistic about everything then you are about us. And it doesn't matter what answer I give you, you're going to take the worst, most pessimistic road, so again, I'm not going to waste my time on you."

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 05:03 PM) Was it people figuring him out, or him getting a bit overworked through his first major league season. You cant teach stuff, and he has top notch major league stuff. I am not really that worried at all. ^This. Santos will be fine, as will Sale. In fact, I'd say we have 3 top line relievers right now, obviously we need a couple more dependable arms but it's no time to freak out about the pen yet imo.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 04:13 PM) That pretty much guarantees that Bobby is back. Ugh I don't see it that way.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 03:58 PM) I want Sale to be a starter, but if we're going for it next year he helps us most in the pen. He's young enough where one year of him in the pen shouldn't really hurt him much. If we were going into rebuilding mode, we should have given Chris his shot to be starter but since we're "all in," he helps us the most by being in the bullpen.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 03:57 PM) Garcia is a FA correct? Correct.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 03:54 PM) If Sale closes, who starts? Peavy or Freddy or some other innings eater that we pick up. Chris is going to be in the pen to start the season, guaranteed.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 03:48 PM) I agree that was horrible. But if our options are Octavio Dotel, I have more confidence in Jenks. Not a knock on Dotel, he's a solid pitcher, but I think Jenks is better. I also fear the notion of a full bullpen by committee because they just don't seem to work (from a historical perspective). I know in theory they make a hell of a lot of sense but it appears that players like knowing what their role is and than adjusting to that role. Chris Sale should be our closer, that way you can keep Matt where he's most valuable and go out and look for more help with out needing to have a guy that has closed before. Quite simple imo.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 04:41 PM) What the hell? I read this post and assumed it was chw42. Gage goin' saber? lol, that was seriously my first thought as well. Took me by surprise big time.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 03:53 PM) Not far from the truth and that ain't no joke Couldn't be further from the truth. If you count Peavy's and Jackson's shortened seasons, Freddy was our 6th best starter last year.

Rios' bat just scares me in general this season but batting him 4th is obviously a horrific idea.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 02:01 PM) Actually the Sears Centre would be a better option to draw from the Rockford area. The Sears centre only holds like 12k.

I like how there's a few people reporting that Pauly has had pretty much no discussions with Arizona and then there's a few who are reporting that they're making a huge push. Good stuff.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 12:32 PM) Hearing #chisox made 2nd best offer to #padres for a-gon. Once they were told no, they went for dunn. - Jon Heyman Wonder what our package consisted of, most certainly Dayan, not sure where we would have went from there.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 01:19 PM) Could the Sox opt to move Alex Rios in order to create payroll flexibility? Not sure what his value is, but last seasons performance probably means you could move him if the club wanted. The hard part is that he is the centerfielder the club has needed for an extended period of time, but the Sox have Jared Mitchell in the wings and there are some other potential options of players you could find and it might free-up the payroll needed to address the bullpen. Not necessarily saying I'd endorse it, but it might be something to consider. Most everything we read people suggest Buehrle/Danks/Floyd/Quentin if the club were trying to shed some payroll but Rios has to be possibility. I still think he'd be hard to move especially if you're actually trying to get value back for him. Second, as you said we need his cf defense and we have nobody that could step in this season and take his spot.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 01:16 PM) Makes you think the Sox have to consider moving Quentin or a pitcher to get some other younger players on board. One nice thing is that the Sox should shed pitching payroll with Buehrle/Peavy coming off the books relatively soon so that should enable you to at some point offer Danks a hefty extension (if the Sox feel that is in there best interest). I'm becoming more and more open to a trade of one of our starters, as long as the club is able to get two top 100 MLB ready pitching prospects with upside in return (which I'm not sure is a realistic expectation). I'm open to moving a starter as long as we get a pitcher who can step right in and take a rotation spot. KW said that Sale is going to be in the pen and if we're planning on contending this season(which we obviously are) than that's the right spot for him.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 01:08 PM) I thought the deal fell apart? It did and then got put back together in a few hr span. Odd couple of hours to say the least.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 12:04 PM) The Score just reported that a newspaper report says that the Hornets may be relocated... and CHICAGO is one of the 4 cities under consideration. Stupid.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 01:04 PM) JR: payroll should be around 110 million If this really is the case then D.Lee should with out a doubt be option A but that apparently isn't happening. If we bring PK back we're about to have to get real freakin creative.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 6, 2010 -> 11:48 AM) jaysonst Hearing #RedSox viewed #WhiteSox as main competition on Adrian Gonzalez. Before Dunn I assume. Kenny certainly isn't f***in around this offseason though.

Why do we have to shoot down a Joe Crede suggestion every single offseason? He's not good people, let it go.