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QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:41 PM) I wasn't thrilled with the performance tonight but I don't think people realize how much that would mess with a players rhythm. The women's ball is pretty significantly smaller and Illinois was never able to get in a rhythm in the first half. They then went out and scored 50 in the 2nd half playing with the proper ball. The difference in balls(hehe) makes a HUGE difference. That's absurd that none of the officials noticed that.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 09:03 PM) Oh, now they use advanced fielding metrics. But they sure didn't use them when on Derek Jeter. lol indeed.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 01:50 PM) We have a RF'er in CQ. It is stillpossible we see a battler in ST between Viciedo and Morel for that 3B job. Nothing has been handed to anyone that I know of plus we have Teahan in the picture. There are trade possibilities for sure We have a dh in rf, we really don't have a rf'er. And 3b is Morel's job.

Besides the fact that all those trades will never happen, I like the fact that you're just throwing out there a 130 million dollar payroll

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 07:09 PM) Party cancelled. On second thought, let me know, I'll bring Ashley, and you two can talk Iowa basketball. Best conversations ever.

Look at what Jayson Werth got and tell me this is an overpay.

QUOTE (Capn12 @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 12:27 PM) Lefty: Thornton Righty: Santos Long Relief: Pena or someone of that ilk LOOGY: Byrdak ROOGY: someone we'll find in the system Closer: Sale Where is this huge demand for a high priced 'pen arm? If we get one, great, if not, it isn't like we're running straight scrubs out there... Gotta sign Byrdak first Overall, it'd be nice to get that LOOGY and one other quality arm and I'd be more than content. EDIT: And I think the worry among some people is that Santos and Sale aren't very proven. That personally doesn't worry me at all as I'd bet on them being two of the very best relievers in baseball this season(ya, I'm that confident in both of them).

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 11:23 AM) So is he just prime trade bait now? Seems like he's blocked for 3 years now. I have no problem trading him with his value being pretty high. Perfect time to trade him imo.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 11:22 AM) Everything I've heard is Thornton or Sale is closer, and they'll sign Byrdak as their other lefty reliever. He was pretty much the guy I was thinking of as a cheap sign for the Sox. Perfect LOOGY.

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 11:20 AM) I would send Floyd and Q That's too much.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 11:17 AM) To be fair, Kenny did say payroll is 'almost tapped-out'. It is but we'll be able to sign a decent reliever for relatively cheap and then go out and trade for one somehow. Like I said, KW isn't leaving the pen like this, not happening.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 12:13 PM) I may be optimistic about certain things, but I am very realistic when it comes to handing out contracts and acquiring players and our payroll. We're going to lose a lot of games 9-8 this year when our bullpen consists of me, you and ss2k5 because we can't afford to sign anyone. The bullpen is not going to go unfixed by KW. We already have 3 really good back end of the pen guys and a pretty decent long reliever. Give Kenny some time and the bullpen will be just fine.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 05:17 PM) My grandma is really failing in health, the doctors just said they would be amazed if she makes it to Christmas and my relatives are saying she looks just terrible right now. She's my only grandparent and is just the sweetest lady. My dad apparently was crying today, in my 20 years of being alive I have never seen him shed a tear, I just feel awful. Sorry to hear that dude. One of my grandmas(who happened to be my closest family member outside my mom and dad) just passed away a few weeks ago, it sucks.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 11:05 AM) Something is strange when shack is the pessimist in a thread. Other than SS2K5, and nobody can touch his homerism, shack is the biggest homer on the board. And EVERYONE else is happy. Gage going all Bill James, Shack becoming the Grinch. Weird times around this board.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:54 AM) The White Sox are NOT the Yankees. Not even close to a fair example. Ya, I kind of misread your point initially, my point of everyone doing it still stands though. QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:55 AM) He did sign with us, and at approximately the same price as we thought was fair, as a consensus. He did it in early December so he wasn't holding the club hostage. I'm really not sure what you want from the guy, it's not like he held out for an unfair price for a long period of time, he signed for fair value relatively quickly and left the negotiations to his agent like you're supposed to. I'm astounded. And ding ding ding, there ya go.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:53 AM) That was why I used to word potential. They have the talent to have one of the best line-ups in baseball as Rios, Konerko, Quentin, Dunn, Beckham, and Ramirez could all be Silver Slugger award winners. Pierre could bat .300, AJ did this in 2009 and we really do not know what Teahan can bring. Thus Greag Walker is in a bad spot if they do not produce. Sorry no green, I really believe this. Ya, that's really not the best of ways to look at things though. Konerko is going to be worse than last year, that's guaranteed and Beckham is going to be better than last season, that's also guaranteed. Then there's also a good chance that AJ puts up better numbers, outside of that it's kind of anyones guess. We certainly have a good lineup now but it's not going to be the best in the league, that's for sure.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 11:51 AM) I guess I am naive then. I thought PK, our captain, wasn't every guy in the league. Derek Jeter is the captain of the Yankees too and he did it. EVERYONE does it.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:33 AM) For me it's the third guaranteed year. Ok, that I understand.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:29 AM) It's not complaining. It's showing legitimate concern for the possible long-term ramifications of the deal. Over 1 million freakin dollars a year? We'll be ok.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:28 AM) So where does it put the payroll for next year? A lot.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:21 AM) Is that a lock or does he have to earn it in spring training? It's his.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:19 AM) So as of right now we have pretty much the same exact offensive lineup from last year except Dunn replaces Kotsay...right? Morel.

QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:16 AM) I like it, very fair price and creative with the deferred money. I would have preferred DLee, personally, but I don't feel we overpaid compared to Paulie's market value at all. Exactly my thoughts. I've been saying the whole time that Derrek Lee made the most sense but I certainly wasn't going to complain if PK came back. This team is now set offensively and in the rotation, just need to add a few arms to the pen.

Life is good!

I hate to sound like a broken record but this is seriously a no brainer. PK and D.Lee are a good bet to put up similar offensive numbers while Lee plays better defense and gives you more speed on the basepaths, and obviously just as important is that he allows you to save some money to add some arms to the pen. Memories be damned, this is an easy decision.