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After a horrid start by CU where they were down 15 or 17 at one point, they end up coming back and winning by a dozen. The 2nd half was all Stinnett, unbelievable performance by him in his first college game.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 07:00 PM) I've been gone the last 3 days. Anything happen in CBB? OSU lost? OSU lost an exhibition. UK lost to Gardner Webb in a real game.

I like Sweeney but that's a no brainer imo. If you make that trade your pen is pretty much set(maybe add a veteran reliever, maybe) and you didn't give up any thing from you major league roster or a crap load of money to do so.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 01:24 PM) If you have CLTV, tune in at 7. I'm not familiar with their young players, just that they have 6 freshman and 3 transfers. Maybe an MVC fan is more familiar with them. Must be good as they're favored by 3 in Vegas. As for us, I'm very excited to see our new guys, with Dar Tucker and Mac Koshwal in particular. Coach Wainwright has not named a starting 5, only that Draelon Burns will be in there for sure, but Mac is a captain and I'm sure should be starting. Dar might be also. I'm worried about both another very slow start under Wainwright and the opponent we're opening with but am very excited to see what we have and how the new guys respond. Yay for no cltv, I'll probably listen. Watts and Dotzler are really their only two impact players from last year who are back(though Bahe and Hibma were decent role players, we'll see how they do with more pt this season). Watts is big and slow, not a very athletic player. That being said, he can shoot, that's pretty much what he does. He's' a 6'8" forward who likes to shoot 3's. Dotzler was fantastic his freshman year, got hurt late in the year though and wasn't the same last season. If healthy, he's one hell of a point guard, I'm interested to see how he turns out. After that, it's pretty much all youngins. Their most touted recruit is 6'3 guard, P'Allen Stinnett, their fans are really excited about this guy. He's supposedly just a slasher, loves getting to the rim. After that, they have 6'8 forward Kenton Walker who at one point was another rivals 150 guy. Don't know a ton about him but like Stinnett, their fans seems to be in love with him. CU is young but they're very talented. They're probably the most unpredictable team in the Valley this year but as alway they're very well coached, so obviously that's going to help.

Very interesting game in Omaha tonight, Depaul-Creighton. Both teams are very young but also very talented, should be a fun game.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 04:25 PM) No you didnt say that. But some one else said that Indiana has 2 lottery picks, and that DJ White is the best big man in the Big 10, and that no one can hold a candle to him. And you speak of UCLA, what team did they lose to in the tournament. What was the rebounding advantage? Not to mention they play in the Pac 10, a completely different conference, with a completely different style. They got get killed in the rebounding department, but that was in the final 4. Once again, never said that IU was the best team in the country but they are the best in the big 10 imo. To say they aren't because of height in the front court, is well... weird. But since we're talking about National Champions, the 05 Tar Heel squad didn't have anyone over 6'9" either. The point is that you don't need a tall front court to win games and championships.

QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 04:06 PM) "Good" is relative - he's certainly "good" compared to me. He's not "good" compared to lottery picks. Heck, Shaun Pruitt averages 12 pts and 8 rbs in 4 less minutes a game compared to White. I don't think he'll be drafted at all, let alone the first day. And? Pruitt is a very good player. He also wasn't coming off of a serious injury like White was and I don't believe he's as talented. Pruitt is very good, imo he's not as good as White. QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 04:07 PM) Jenks, You just arent projecting it correctly. DJ White is going to come in and put up 20-10 this year. Everyone else in the Big 10 is going to regress. Hence why DJ White is the best big man in the Big 10 with out any question. Ah yes, go to the extreme. I have clearly said everything that you've posted there. Nope, just replying to your response that IU is going to have trouble cause they're not tall in the front court. Not having a 6'10" guy clearly made UCLA's season a failure last year.

QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 02:12 PM) My bet is White doesn't get drafted at all in day one. He's not that good. You're going to tell me that a guy who averaged 14, 7 and 2 blocks a game after basically not playing at all the previous season, isn't that good?

QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 01:47 PM) DJ White is the most overrated player in the Big Ten. I disagree. I could see how you'd believe that while watching the beginning of last season but he was fantastic at the end. One could argue that it took him a while to get back into playing shape after missing the majority of the last season. DJ White has become a great player and he's certainly not overrated imo.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 11:02 AM) I'll throw the question out to anyone; do you believe baseball is corrupt enough to cover up a positive steroid test of one of the best players (read:money makers, which tends to exclude Palmeiro) in the league? No question.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 12:48 PM) I don't think Fields is really a 2-hole hitter, despite what Ozzie seems to think. You might want to consider putting Hunter in the 2-spot, actually, flipping him with Fields. But really, no one in that lineup is an ideal #2 hitter. That's what I'd personally do as well.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 12:40 PM) Ugh, the cards seem to be lining up for Torii coming here for, don't they? It's better than giving C-Lee 6/$100 or Soriano 8/$136, but I still don't like this a whole lot. It certainly improves the Sox a lot for 2007, but since they've committed to Fields at third-base, that means they're still without a left-fielder. And if they go with Jerry Owens in LF, that's as bad or worse than the decision to bring Podsednik back last season or to sign Erstad. Owens bat will be hard-pressed to play CF, much less LF. I'm 100% confident saying his bat will never even be average for a whole season in LF. Luke Scott for Joe Crede, please? Woah, Hunter is going to improve our team from last season?

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 11:48 AM) You do realize Indiana only has 2 starters listed 6-9. http://indiana.rivals.com/cbroster.asp As a comparison, Wisconsin has: 4 players taller than 6'10, 1 player taller than 6'9. Im not saying that height means everything, I just often look at Indiana and wonder how are they going to match up against bigger Big 10 schools. MSU also has 4 guys who are bigger than 6'10. Im not saying that will mean Indiana cant win, I just dont think they are as sure of a bet as some people like to think. All that means absolutely nothing to me. I really couldn't care less that Suton or Butch are an inch or two taller than DJ White, doesn't mean anything to me. Indiana is the best team in the big 10 and one of the better teams in the country, they aren't finishing 3rd in the big 10.

Indiana wont finish 3rd in the big 10. Not happening.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 10:01 AM) Add to that Freddie Garcia ... as a result of the Olivo, Moore and Reed deal. The farm system produced Freddie, so to speak. Then add Pods and, hell I forget the pitcher's name now for Carlos Lee. Then add Iguchi, AJ, El Duque from the money saved. The farm system 'produced' several key members of the '05 team. Viz.

QUOTE(Chombi and the Fungi @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 12:27 AM) Yea I understand it is rediculous...My point is lots of teams have their top prospects up, and then start them in AAA the next year. Usually those decisions are made in advance. In Fields case, it may have been. They do the "No matter how well you do, you're going back down for the remainder of the season, or next season, etc." I don't agree with the idea in this case but it is what it is. Obviously Fields had more time to showcase himself w/Crede hurt, but if Joe comes back, what's the harm in giving Fields a month to get going in AAA. Don't get me wrong either...If he is here, I would like him playing. I am just looking at it from an organizational point of view and what KW would possibly be thinking to do it. For him it's that he doesn't have anything else to prove in the minors. It's just going to slow down his progression if he's sitting in aaa. For the team, when you have a bad offense it doesn't make much sense to send a potential 30 homerun guy for absolutely no reason.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 12:13 AM) LOL Lots of teams send players on pace for 35 homers and 100 RBIs back to AAA. Especially after finishing worst in the league in offense. We are a confused franchise.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 8, 2007 -> 12:05 AM) Josh Fields will be starting for the Sox next year somewhere....don't overreact to what KW said. I heard the interview on the radio tonight, and it was totally bulls***. Probably true but it's not the crap I want to hear. This organization has a history of horribly mishandling young players, it better not happen to Josh.

What the F is wrong with this organization

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 6, 2007 -> 11:58 PM) I'm hoping Paxson and/or Skiles get fired for this mess. Ben Wallace continues to be the worst player in the NBA with regards to production vs contract. Ridiculous.

MSU beat Michigan Tech by a whole 6 points tonight. Two good exhibition games by Sparty.

That's really a no brainer.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 10:06 PM) Kentucky and UConn are both going to struggle big time this year. Gardner-Webb is better than people realize, but UK is just ugly and has no interior defense. Agreed on both. I hate these damn espn u games though, I want to see some of these darn teams play.

UK down 14 to Gardner Webb.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Nov 7, 2007 -> 01:18 PM) Good to see you are carrying on the tradition. Let em eat some shoulder, especially if they are looking behind them or to the sides to say hi to another frat boy. Also, people who don't wait for the whistle at a hockey game are huge assholes and should rot in hell. Yeah, I said it. I'm not there to watch you, sit the f*** down/don't come back to your seat until there is a whistle. Same thing also applies, to a bit lesser degree, to the middle of an at bat at a baseball game. Pssh, what are you talking about? We've never had trouble with those type of people at games.