Rowand44

What the poop happened? I left BWW in like the 6th inning, next thing I know I'm watching highlights at a bar and they won. Fuseilicious indeed.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jul 25, 2007 -> 02:32 AM) Rowand would have won the division last year You know it.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 03:56 PM) http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...t&p=1475529 Oh boy. So now what do you do with yourself til school starts? Cry until a new bloons comes out?

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 03:50 PM) Rowand is insincere. Don't you have some bloons to play?

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 03:43 PM) I suppose compete and contend are two different things, but I still think there might be one too many holes to fill this off-season. However, Williams has proved me wrong before. IMO, if we can find a way to fix the bullpen(which as brutal as it is, can be done) then we can at least be competitive and I believe we can contend. Now, I'm not saying I necessarily expect that, but I do believe that it can be done.

QUOTE(AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 03:47 PM) Thome 3 for 3, 2 runs, Not worth watching because he didn't homer? He's worth watching as well, and I apologize.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 03:41 PM) Hardest thing to do is find starting pitching. As doom and gloom as it is around here, Buehrle-Vazquez-Danks isn't a terrible core to have for the next three years. Yup. As awful as this team is right now, I still believe we can compete next season. Kenny has some work to do but with our core of SP, it's doable.

Javy, Fields, Konerko, Jenks. Four players worth watching still. Good job guys.

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 03:33 PM) 1 click, 3 topics...YIKES LOL You can tip me later for cleaning up your mess.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 03:33 PM) You don't trade Vazquez. You don't trade Garland or Buerhle either. Contreras goes and you use his $10M somewhere else It's going to be quite hard to rid ourselves of JC, obviously that would be the most ideal scenario. One of Garland/Javy is going to have to go and right now, the smart move looks to be to move Jon(I've flip flopped on this). Jon is signed for less years and is going to make more than Javy eventually and Garland would bring you back a very nice package as well

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 03:29 PM) One game and seven homers most certainly doesn't mean that Fields replaces Crede. Joe Crede is a superior defensive thirdbaseman and a 30 homers player. Fields is doing a good job, but rebuilding this team for '08 doesn't mean getting rid of Joe Crede. Crede should be at 3B and also signed to a 3 or 4 year extension. Fields should be moved to LF and play 3B as needed. Crede has hit 30 homers once in his career. How can we possibly risk signing Joe to a 3-4 year extension with all his back problems, not to mentionn who his agent is. I love Joe Crede as I'm sure most Sox fans do, but it's time to get rid of him.

Ya, to say Joe had attitude problems is ridiculous. Josh is definitely developing nicely, I still say he'll never be the defensive 3b Joe is/was but he can be above average there. He's already making all the routine plays, personally, I just don't think he's ever going to have tremendous range. Not really a knock, I just don't ever see him being a great 3b like Joe.

QUOTE(DonnyDevito @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 03:13 PM) why hasn't ozzie started gonzalez at SS? Cause he's not good.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 03:12 PM) Another way to ask this. Ozzie is going to have his limited power small guy at the top of the order next year no matter what. Assume this statement is correct, and then answer this question: who would you like that to be? 1. Scott Podsednik 2. Darrin Erstad 3. Jerry Owens Jose Reyes.

QUOTE(LukeGofannon @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 03:07 PM) BP's morons? http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2007/03/compu...e-feelings.html Good for them. Eventually they were going to get a Sox prediction right considering they basically have the Sox finishing 4th every season. I never had much respect for that site but I lost all respect for them when they had something on their site in 05 like "Just because MLB says the White Sox have won the Central, doesn't mean they have to us," or some garbage like that.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 09:51 AM) If we are going to bring in Wily Mo why not just give Terrero a shot then? Since both are the same age and both very raw and just need "playingtime". Terrero is two years older and hasn't even come close to the production that Wily Mo has in his scattered ab's. Wily Mo's career ops is almost 100 points higher than Terrero's.

Fields has really pounded the ball the last few days. His average is up to .255 now with a .759 ops on the year. Pretty damn solid for a rook, even with all the k's. Keep it up, Josh.

Yup, BP's morons make one little prediction and the world is over for us Sox fans. I'm not high on Gio and honestly don't think he's going to turn into much but to say his ceiling is that of a 3 starter is just wrong, imo.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 08:35 AM) It looks like Russell is pitching much better in relief. He has a shot at the bullpen next year. If he can beat out powerhouses Dewon Day and Buttvich He's certainly got the arm to be a solid reliever, lets see if he can adjust to doing so.

QUOTE(Brian @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 09:34 AM) Hmmmm. Wonder where they would fit them in there. Upper bowl obviously. Ya, I'm not really sure. That seems to be the one question mark at this point.

QUOTE(BigEdWalsh @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 04:23 AM) I don't care that in 2004 he hit 26 homers. This year, especially if you take away a 4 for 4 game, he's been brutal. I don't want him. He strikes out at an alarming rate. Ugh. Prior to this season, he's had 3 years in a row where he's posted ops' over .800. If he gets consistant ab's I see no reason why he wouldn't be able to post a + .800 ops for a season. Yes he has his weaknesses, but with as many holes as this team has, if you can find a productive bat for a middle reliever then you have to do so. EDIT: Actually, in 05 he posted a .796 ops, my bad. Still very solid.

QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 04:28 AM) I went though 1986-1989 as a Sox fan. This is nothing. Oh it's something. How you can go from being one of the best teams of all time to this in a 2 year span is pretty mind boggling.

QUOTE(BigEdWalsh @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 02:19 AM) Willy Mo Pena? OMG! Why?? What a good for nothing bum. I think he's already seen his best years and that's not saying much. Unless he'd be coming for some of our worst bullpen garbage acquiring him makes no sense to me at all. Under no circumstance is he needed. He's 25 and in limited time he's already posted decent numbers. The guy has ridiculous power potential, if we can get him for a bullpen arm, I'd jump all over it. The only thing that I don't like about him is he's only signed through 08.

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Jul 23, 2007 -> 11:41 PM) Yeah really. What other reason do we all seem to hate Owens for, and other players who suck? When it comes to baseball, you hate the guys because of how they play baseball, and in this case, it's perfectly normal to hate Contreras Jose Contreras by all accounts is one nice human being. Not to mention the guy has been through a hell of a lot in his career. Oh ya, he was also one of the more important reasons as to why that 05 team has a nice shiny ring.

QUOTE(dasox24 @ Jul 23, 2007 -> 11:11 PM) I kinda like it. I've never seen those commercials until reading this thread, but they're just trying to have a little fun showing how anything can happen when you control what happens. Thanks man.