Rowand44

QUOTE(fathom @ Jan 10, 2007 -> 01:57 PM) McRoberts has been fantastic in every aspect besides scoring this year. Anyone that was expecting him to replace Redick's scoring is going to be disappointing, but he's far and away the best player on Duke. Noah and Horford offset each other, and neither has been as good as they were last year. No one is a bigger fan of Aaron Gray than I am, but he's struggled recently. He'll be better when he gets more consistent playing time, even though teams are taking away his touches and making Pitt burn them from the perimeter. Sean Williams of BC had a great stretch of games, but he's fallen off the table now. Davidson is a solid center, even though he's trying way too hard to impress scouts with his outside game. He's gone through so much though, and I only wish he can be a first round pick. Ronald Steele has been bad this year, but that's due to injury. If Drew Neitzel qualifies as a point guard, he belongs in the top 3. He's really impressed me this season, and Mich St. would have been so much better the past few years if he played with this much assertiveness. McRoberts has been ok. He's a good player at this point but he certainly isn't special and he doesn't belong on an all american team. His scoring and rebounding numbers are similar to Noah's and Horford's and then when you realize they're both shooting nearly 20 percent better than him from the field, it's not much of an argument there.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Jan 10, 2007 -> 01:52 PM) And though Shakur has been better than in the past I'd still take Collison. He's got similar numbers across the board and plays much better defense. Man, this is a down year for PG's, my next two are probably an injured Ronald Steele and freshmen Javaris Crittendon. I'll throw Acie Law's name into the mix.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jan 10, 2007 -> 01:32 PM) First, I explained the missed shot totals above, with the 5 FT added in. As for Rush, it's still crazy to see how some people list him as their best SF in the country. So far this year, he's not even one of the top 5 SF. I don't understand the way Self is using him. Rush just stands on the side out on the perimeter, and never moves. All the team has to do is face guard him, and he's taken out of the game. Other underrated players in the country include the Providence duo of McDermott/Hill, Levance Fields (stats aren't great, but he's a hell of a leader), D.J. Strawberry, and Rich McBride (I joke!). Ya, after I posted I figured you meant ft's added in, still, he didn't have a great game but he was still solid. And we can sit here for hours and list underrated players, a lot of people fly under the radar in college sports.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jan 10, 2007 -> 09:36 AM) Tucker missed just as many shots as he had points. He's a good player, but he's severely overrated right now. I can't believe some people are claiming he's the Player of the Year in college basketball this year. Other players who are massively overrated are Dominic James and Brandon Rush. The most underrated players in the country are Mustafa Shakur and Richard Hendrix. Alando had 17 points last night and missed 10 shots. Alando is having a great year and before this game he's shined even brighter in Wiscy's biggest games(Pitt and Marquette). He's averaging close to 20 and 5 and shooting close to 50 percent, like I said, he's having a great year and he will definitely be in the player of the year talk at the end of the year. As far as Rush, he had a lot of preseason hype but that has cooled down big time. He is not having that good of a year at all but I certainly don't think he's severely overrated at this point either. Dominic James on the other hand is completely overrated right now. As far as your underrateds: Mustafa has been so inconsistant before this year that I think it's going to take him some time to earn some of that respect back, as he's been a pretty overrated player through out his career. And Hendrix will become pretty well known as the season goes, that whole Alabama team has just been under the radar so far.

QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jan 10, 2007 -> 01:14 AM) What makes u feel good about it ? Jenks and MacD are the only 2 proven commodities and one has a history of injuries and the other one has a screw in his elbow. I like the arms that we have, that simple. It's hard to find consistant middle relievers from year to year, so if you just look by previous years, it's not always going to be the best way to determine future results. All of the guys that are either in the pen or have a shot to make it, have terrific arms.

If there is one part of the team I feel very good about, it's the bullpen.

Wow. What a finish.

Well then...

OSU is just a dumb team at the moment. They're going to have to mature a lot come March.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Jan 9, 2007 -> 09:58 PM) You lose a bet or something? Hey Rex, don't look at the Evansville score tonight.

Airforce was down 15 in the first half, new mexico has scored 5 points in the 2nd half with 5 minutes left in the game. Air Force is now up 8.

Fun game in Madison, changing the subject to the Valley just for a second(cause that's what I do ) UNI downed at Illinois State, there are now 0 undefeateds left in the Valley. Back to OSU-Wiscy now...

This game needs more Erin Andrews. My gawd.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jan 9, 2007 -> 06:21 PM) if they really believe that they could 'compete' with the big teams -- should try (maybe they did?) to schedule at least one tough OOC game. Although, I don't know how far in advance these schedules are made... I'd bet that they did try.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jan 9, 2007 -> 04:36 PM) Boise could have had a greater say in the argument if they scheduled better OOC opponents. Oregon State, Wyoming, Sacramento State, and Utah just isn't going to get it done. Yes, this is assuming a bigger power would actually play them, and that's a big assumption. But I'm not ready to hand Boise State anything after their schedule and escaping one of the worst BCS teams this year. USC, LSU, OSU, Florida, and probably even Michigan would beat Boise State by 10+ points in my opinion. I agree with a lot of what you said, but the point is that they still didn't get to prove themselves completely. Would they have lost to Florida? Most likely, but we don't know that for sure. And if I had to bet, there was probably no way that one of the powers would have scheduled Boise State.

Two of the best and two of the classiest guys in the game. Both very deserving.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 9, 2007 -> 03:07 PM) Except Booty has actually played QB, while Cassel was purely a clipboard holder. But yes if the Bears go down, my focus will be the Patriots and my favorite current QB in the NFL, Tom Brady. However, I am now predicting a Pats/Bears superbowl. Of course first the Bears got to win a playoff game and than another and than we'll see what happens in the big game. Did I mention how great Brady is. You called Troy Smith, Troy Brown, hence my Pats comment.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 9, 2007 -> 03:00 PM) Grossman also put up ungodly passing numbers for a couple seasons and had a rocket ship of an arm. And even than he went 24th overall and had the Bears not taken him (although there was speculation the Packers had interest) he probably would have fallen to the 2nd round. I do think you are right, his arm is good enough but I wouldn't even think of comparing it to that of Grossman's. Brees was a 2nd round pick and took some time and I could buy this comparison a bit, however, Brees was 3 times the passer Brown was at the collegiate level. I would rather draft Booty than I would Brown. Someone has the Patriots on their mind.

Definitely two final four calibur teams, I'm really looking forward to this one.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jan 9, 2007 -> 12:30 AM) Nice to see Texas crack the Top 25. Drexel must really be playing well? Drexel is a pretty solid team. Already have road wins against Cuse and Nova. They have a tough game coming up against Hofstra on Thursday, should be a fun one there.

QUOTE(Brian @ Dec 3, 2006 -> 07:07 PM) I'm gonna start calling you out. YOu keep getting these out on a limb gut feelings, they never happen, and nobody mentions them. I got my eye on you, sir. I have a feeling SIU will win the whole NCAA tourney in April. QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 3, 2006 -> 07:09 PM) LOL, like what? Cause I said once in the college basketball thread that I thought Depaul was going to beat Kentucky? Ohio State turned me off a lot during their game against Michigan. Florida will win that game, just watch. Sorry Brian but you called me out on this so I must bump this up. I hate to be "that" guy but both Michigan and Ohio State were overrated. Florida earned that National Championship, so congrats to them, they definitely deserve it.

GO GATORS!!! A Florida win and I win Krush's bowl pool, so I'm a big Gator fan tonight.

QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jan 8, 2007 -> 01:57 PM) who the heck is still voting for wichita state, havent they lost like 5/6 Yes they have. UNI should be in the top 25.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 7, 2007 -> 07:15 PM) I'm totally with you on that one. Jill Wagner. She's hot as hell, if that's a strange crush then she's one of mine as well.

Mo State takes down WSU. Shockers are now 1 and 3 in conference and in some trouble. Long way to go obviously but it's going to be very hard for them to get out of that hole to actually win the league.