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at least give him a shot to make the team. See what he has against some of our current guys.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 10:41 PM) Congrats Cleveland, you ARE the Eastern Conference's tallest midget! Can the Cavs seriously win one against San Antonio? The "tallest midget" has won 2 of the last 3 years.

Im pulling for the Cavs too. Cleveland in 6 over Spurs

I would for no more than 4-5 years

s*** NO!

wow.Lebron.wow

wow. I'll miss him too. I have no doubt he will be one of the best gms in the game.

Frank hit his 8th hr of the season against the sox , 495th overall, 5 to go

Good post. I agree with just about everything you said. If we are going to unload, might as well trade the older players and free agents to be.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 29, 2007 -> 09:18 AM) He's also one of the only things of value we have. If we know Gordon isnt worth much, dont you think the lakers feel the same way? Deng is by far the player that teams want more than anyone else on our team, and the bargaining for a STAR like Kobe starts at your most talented player. I don't know how Gordon would not be worth much.

Id really rather the Bulls NOT trade Tyrus or Deng.

Tell me which GG's he did not deserve, I was a young teen when Andruw Jones broke out into the majors, so I hat the privlege to watch Andruw Jones at least a few games every year since he debuted in '96. I do realize his defense has not been as it was in his early days but, he deserves all but 1 or 2 of those gold gloves, that's how good he was. Obviously, his range factor has gone down the last couple years, so I would say to this point he should not win any more gold gloves. He is still above average. Why is it wrong to compare Jones to Sluggers of that era? Other sluggers are always being compared to Ruth and Aaron,Rose,Bench ect. Im not the first , I'm not the last to compare. All the players you named were partly mentioned as greats because of their bats, jose should be no different. If you hit 51 hrs in a season, you are no slouch. I am not comparing apples to oranges, I was making a point that you can not cherry pick stats when judging a players overall game. Defense is way overlooked when looking at those top sluggers. So if you want to get on Jones OBP and AVG (reasons why people call him overrated) , lets talk about the D of all those top sluggers I mentioned. Jones is only overrated based on the individuals opinion and perspective. I see a chance at 600 hrs and close to 10 seasons where he was near the top of range factor and fielding pct at center field. Andruw Jones is in my eyes in the category between Torrii Hunter and Ken Griffey Jr. That is not overrated.

this is a great move for B-rush. this move will make him a lottery pick imo

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ May 26, 2007 -> 03:24 AM) I mean that I like what you wrote and completely agree. lol sorry, my sarcasm detector works too well and sometimes picks up sarcasm that is not really there.

QUOTE(Felix @ May 26, 2007 -> 03:16 AM) I stopped reading after this. Seriously, Jones was (is?) a great defensive CF, but gold gloves mean nothing. Sorry. I doubt you stopped reading after that. Jones Deserved the majority of those gloves. So YES in some cases it does mean something. To over look defense is ignorance. Baseball may be the only sport where defense is overlooked. QUOTE(Rowand44 @ May 26, 2007 -> 03:17 AM) Read the rest, it's pretty good. not sure what you mean by that. I value defense and don't just cherry pick what statistical categories when I evaluate an all around baseball player. My point is, their are a lot of big name sluggers who I consider overrated because they provide nothing or very little on the other side of the ball.

-Frank Thomas hitting a HR in 93 against the cubs in the cross town classic - Bo Jacksons HR in the Clicher in '93 - Frank Thomas HR against the blue jays in the alcs - Frank Thomas winning 93 and 94 MVP, Jack Mcdowell winning 93 Cy Young -Michael Jordan at bat, hits a ground out and the Wrigley Crowd boos their own pitcher for throwing Jordan out. a lot more obviously, id be here all day though

Is andruw really overrated? 9 gold gloves in CF speak for themselves Let's keep in mind that Andruw just turned 30, if he averages just 20 HRS a year the next 10 years, he will finish with 548 hrs 25 avg a year he can approach 600. If he reached 600 hrs and finished with 9-12 Gold gloves, that is NOT over rated. Folks, jones is doing things that have not been accomplished at cf besides Griffey and Mays. I think people look at his career .265 avg too much what about Andruw having a higher career slugging pct than Ernie Banks, Kirby Puckett, Miguel Tejada, Johnny Bench, Roberto Clemente? People don't call Manny Ramirez Overrated, but what about his Defense? What about David ortiz not playing the field? What about Frank Thomas and Sammy sosa in their primes? Maybe Jones is overrated in Fantasy, as a baseball player he is not.

I'd like to see him in more movies, I thought he was hilarious in dirty work

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good luck everyone, I know you guys are a bunch of grindrz

I can't say I will miss him. The only think that sucks is I have to watch him on ESPN now.

The Illini are getting a bad rep FAST.

We might as well grab Jr Griffey from them, it would balance out them nabbing pedro lopez from us on waivers