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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 30, 2005 -> 07:31 PM) at least he cant hit into another double play

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Apr 30, 2005 -> 07:25 PM) We're scoring runs? WTF? 4-3 ata boy tad

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 30, 2005 -> 07:24 PM) Tie GAME@!!!! with one more still out there and the hottest hitter up

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 30, 2005 -> 06:45 PM) Minnesota with a safe lead on the Angels. If our offense doesn't exit cropseball we are going under 1 game up tonight. this offense sucks, its not even like its against santana and radke and millwood like it was early in the year....saarloos?? roberston?? johnson?? jeez this is pitiful, we have to acquire another bat

QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 04:45 AM) I think it would be wise to split up El Duque and Contreras. Having them back to back has worn down the bullpen in their consecutive days, and then the other 3 are going 7 innings or so pretty regularly. With days off on Thursday and Monday, now would be a good time to make this adjustment. good call, those two run up pitch counts like its their job...its nice to see intelligent ideas on here every now and then

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Apr 28, 2005 -> 12:52 PM) Explain why that would be good for our bullpen? i never meant to say taht i wanna see em trade politte. it wouldnt be good for our pen, im just saying that if you are gonna trade a guy, do it while his stock is high

QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 28, 2005 -> 12:30 PM) Have you checked Politte's stats lately? wouldnt it be the perfect time to trade him then? when his stock is high

The white sox lead the majors in balked in runs (3) and games lost by failing to catch routine pop flies (2). This series in Oakland was pitiful. Hawk, please, you are my favorite announcer and I love you, but for god sakes, call it like it was, not how you want to see it. Crede leaned in to it, and the reason we lost is because we didnt catch teh ball, not the umps

QUOTE(SoufSideHitMen @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) THESE ARE POSSIBLY THE WORST UMPIRES I HAVE EVER ENCOUNTED. AFTER LAST NIGHTS BALK CALL AND HORRIBLE PLAY AT THE PLATE AND TONIGHT WHEN JOE CREDE GOT HIT BY THE PITCH WHEN IT CLEARLY WAS IN THE BATTERS BOX! MAYBE IT IS JUST ME BUT DO THESE UMPS STINK! :banghead in all honesty, no matter how much hawk hates and we hate it, the call was not really that bad, its in the rule book, regardless of where the ball is, battersbox or over the plate if a player intentionally gets hit by a ball the ump can rule that it was a strike or a ball. im not sayin crede got hit intentionally, but thats what it looked like to me....what was more bulls*** was throwing him out of teh game

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2005 -> 02:19 PM) Softly hit right to Crede. It was an easy turn. it couldnt have been any easier for a guy making his major league debut at SS. nice job freddy to pitch over that leadoff triple

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 11:17 PM) sign off. they'll be lots of "he gawns" after this thread is over with. One loss and people lose their s***, jesus. yeah we lost, it happens. the only think i am slightly concerned about is that this is the type of loss that can put a team in a tailspin. we need to come out tomorrow and have a strong outing by freddy (day game for him again) and get to saarloos

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/powerrankings If your opponent does not score, you can't lose. The Chicago White Sox apparently have this truism down pat just months after deciding to reshape Ozzie Guillen's power-laden club around the pitching-and-defense formula. Missing are the thunder sticks of Magglio Ordonez, Carlos Lee, Jose Valentin (30 homers in 2004) and Frank Thomas -- a quartet that helped the White Sox lead the majors in homers last season. They were then replaced in the lineup this offseason by Jermaine Dye, Scott Podsednik, Tadahito Iguchi and Carl Everett, essentially. Not exactly a sure-fire way to turn an 83-win ballclub into one of baseball's beasts. But it is the age-old adage -- pitching wins -- that is carrying the White Sox through an eight-game winning streak, the best record in baseball at 16-4 and the No. 1 spot in the latest CBS SportsLine.com Power Rankings. Even their No. 5 starter, Jon Garland, is 4-0 with a 1.80 ERA. Yes, that is their No. 5, a sure sign the restructuring is going as smoothly as a Mark Buehrle delivery. Buehrle (3-1 with a 2.67 ERA and a .170 batting-average against), of course, is the workhorse ace, leading a pitching staff that boasts the second-best ERA in baseball at 2.97 to the still inhuman Marlins league-leading 2.27 mark. The White Sox have led in every game they have played this season, so only an inconsistent pen is keeping them from being unbeaten right now perhaps. The starters have the best ERA in the AL by far, and they lead all of baseball with 13 quality starts in 20 games. Cuban-Yankee imports Orlando Hernandez and Jose Contreras are making the hay in the middle of the rotation, leaving the big-budget Yankees (No. 15 in the rankings) awfully jealous of the mileage the White Sox are getting out the relative bargains compared to the $100 million rotation of Kevin Brown, Jaret Wright and company. Defensively, only the equally surprising D-Backs (up to No. 10) have more assists right now -- which means a whole lot of weak ground-ball outs being sucked up by an underrated infield of Joe Crede, Juan Uribe, Iguchi and Paul Konerko, the impending free agent who is also carrying the power torch. The White Sox are holding opponents to a .220 batting average right now because of the pitching and improved defense, and are the best in baseball in one-run games, going 9-1 in those close contests through their first 20 games. The nine one-run wins are just one off the April record, held by the 1987 Giants, who were 10-0. Guillen and company have mastered the close-to-the-vest play, but time will tell if it will finally catch up to them once the weather and bats heat up in Chicago. The complete Power Rankings through Monday, April 25: POWER RANKINGS Current Team Previous 1 Chicago White Sox 3 Tough to argue against a team that couldn't -- and didn't -- lose last week, riding an eight-game winning streak through Monday's game. 2 St. Louis Cardinals 4 The starting pitchers pick up the slow-starting bats last week, going 6-1, including a pair of wins by both resurgent aces Mark Mulder and Matt Morris. 3 Boston Red Sox 2 The red-hot Orioles have lapped them as baseball's most threatening lineup, at least temporarily. 4 Los Angeles Dodgers 1 Have struggled some after long hot streak; apparently there is too much pressure being at the top of this list. 5 Anaheim Angels 12 When, not if, Dallas McPherson gets hot, this could be the most well-rounded team in baseball. 6 Atlanta Braves 6 Look like they will finally have a dogfight on their hands in the clumped-up NL East. 7 Florida Marlins 7 Major-league-leading ERA rose to 2.27, but is still almost 3/4 of a run better than the White Sox, who are second best on the hill. 8 Baltimore Orioles 9 Brian Roberts and Bruce Chen are the latest examples of age-27 breakout players. 9 Minnesota Twins 5 Justin Morneau and Joe Mauer still need to find their stride as consistent big-league run producers. 10 Arizona Diamondbacks 19 If Javy Vazquez gets hot, look out. This could be one of baseball's famed worst-to-first stories. 11 Chicago Cubs 14 Mark Prior (3-0, 0.95 ERA) looks as strong as ever. Now, if Kerry Wood can follow suit, they will really have something. 12 New York Mets 22 Surprisingly one of the more potent offenses in the NL of late. Their 99 runs scored are No. 2 in the NL entering Tuesday's games. 13 Cincinnati Reds 13 Wily Mo Pena has five more homers than struggling Ken Griffey -- in 22 fewer at-bats. 14 Texas Rangers 23 They still have no pitching, but at least the offense and closer Francisco Cordero are heating up. 15 New York Yankees 15 Question-mark starters Kevin Brown (8.25 ERA) and Jaret Wright (9.15 ERA and on the DL) have been worse than even their critics thought they would be. 16 Philadelphia Phillies 8 Jon Lieber, the one the Yankees let get away, is 4-0 with a nifty 2.73 ERA. 17 Detroit Tigers 18 A sweep of the Twins has this team believing it can compete even without Magglio Ordonez. 18 Cleveland Indians 17 They are picking it up defensively, and C.C. Sabathia's return helps, but when will those bats get hot? 19 San Diego Padres 20 Jake Peavy might be the most underrated ace in baseball. 20 San Francisco Giants 21 How much does Barry Bonds mean? With him, a Series contender. Without him, an afterthought. 21 Houston Astros 24 Unsupported Roger Clemens (0.32 ERA) will be the first to give returning run producer Lance Berkman a big hug. 22 Oakland Athletics 11 Still the worst offensive ballclub in the AL, and ex-ace Barry Zito has a 6.60 ERA. 23 Seattle Mariners 25 The Mariners were 3-7 in their first 10 home games this year, their worst start in Safeco Field history. 24 Washington Nationals 16 Hopefully all their new home momentum doesn't die too soon. 25 Pittsburgh Pirates 28 Majors' worst offense has scored only 55 runs and hit 10 homers. 26 Tampa Bay Devil Rays 27 At least they're showing some fight. Now if they could just start pitching (AL-worst 6.11 ERA). 27 Milwaukee Brewers 26 Offensive makeover still has them near the bottom in average, runs and on-base percentage. 28 Toronto Blue Jays 10 Once things hit the fan, it cost the hitting coach his job. No respect for their overachieving start. 29 Colorado Rockies 30 Baby Rocks Clint Barnes and Brad Hawpe are locked in, and Garrett Atkins is on the way. 30 Kansas City Royals 29 The Royals have lost 19 of their past 23 games at Kauffman Stadium, dating back to Sept. 11, 2004.

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 11:05 AM) Maybe i'm crazy but maybe trading shingo wouldn't be a bad idea. I mean it's obvious he's struggling against the teams that have started to see him more often. It would give him a fresh start in the NL who has barely seen him. It would also allow us to trade him while his value is at it's peak and move Hermy into the closers role. However they would have to give us something really good for him in return. Make them pay out the nose. honestly this isnt that far fetched. The sox ditched loaiza when they thought the league caught on to his cutter, and i could see KW seeing the same thing in shingo. but i agree. things are working just fine leave the pen alone, unless soemthign blows the socks off of KW leave it alone.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Apr 26, 2005 -> 10:31 AM) yeah, lets give up marte. he could be calling about walker

QUOTE(Jake @ Apr 23, 2005 -> 01:22 PM) That was my prediction in December. Here are the projections for our starters. Buehrle - 29 wins Garcia - 19 wins Garland - 29 wins Contreras - 0 :| El Duque - 19 wins And we can assume Contreras will win eventually. and we can assume garland will lose eventually

QUOTE(Be Good @ Apr 22, 2005 -> 09:19 PM) I am expecting it to that would give us 124 total victories

QUOTE(Capn12 @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 11:07 PM) In the great words of Harry Doyle, aka Bob Uecker: "That looked like the Terminator, only slower. Maybe it was his out-of-stater, or it could have been the Hibernator--that baby is definitely going away for the winter. Whatever for Takatsu, it might be see-ya-later. He's probably gonna become a spectator." classic

QUOTE(Capn12 @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 10:52 PM) Garcia is overdue for the type of outing that we expect from him. That last effort against Seattle was less than stellar. Buehrle battled today and picked up a much deserved win. Now lets see Garcia go out there and give us 7 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 6 Ks what? overdue? if you count one less than average start against seattle as overdue than maybe. but his two outings against cle were almost exactly what you project as his KC game.... 6IP 5H 2ER 3BB 6K and 8 IP 4H 1ER 2BB 4K

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Apr 22, 2005 -> 12:36 PM) Are you seriously suggesting that Crede-Valentin-Uribe-Konerko was more talented defensively than Crede-Uribe-Iguchi-Konerko? If so I strongly disagree. Uribe playing SS is a BIG reason why the White Sox are 12-4. That's more talent than attitude. He's struggling offensively, but defensively he's been a MAJOR upgrade over Valentin. uribe has made his share of errors, especially on easy plays, much like valentin. he needs to get better at it. he has made 3 errors thus far which projects at 30 on the year. valentin had a better range factor and better zone rating...i will say that baseball prospectus had uribe as the top defensive SS by projected defensive VORP at teh beginning of the year, so hopefully he will get it goin. im not sayin hes worse than valentin at SS, but thus far this year he has yet to show that he has been better. That said, he will be better, but it has 0 reason to do with 12-4. 12-4 is clearly in the hands of clutch hitting and good pitching, and clutch pitching (if there is such a thing)

this is a better description of ozzies response http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-home-headlines

QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) Ok i guess Im the only one who backs ozzie, what ever. no way, im with you. i could give a f*** about magglio now. hes got the other teams jersey on now, and he cant get over the fact that he thinks someone ran him outa town. either way he represents the otehr team now, and im gonna take that comment as if torii hunter said it.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 01:34 PM) and a game winning homer earlier in teh year he has been clutch even with us the past few years

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 01:32 PM) didn't he walk off triple last night?? and a game winning homer earlier in teh year

QUOTE(sec159row2 @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 01:26 PM) but as trammel said... "the twins are still the team to beat"... as dmitry young said its the tigers and tribe, then everyone else....what a b****

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Apr 21, 2005 -> 01:25 PM) Shingo!!!!!!!! 12-4