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But it's a long shot, more likely Dec. 1 2021, according to the article. He blames advanced analytics that shows long term big money deals aren't worth it. Too many front offices are using purely numbers to determine contracts and they don't look at the intangibles of the players enough.

That's why you need to watch some to get a feel for how he pitched.

Maybe it's like Stockholm syndrome. After a while people think "he's not so bad"

My first thought as well. ?

So sad.

I wonder if the hold up is that only the White Sox are seriously in on both Machado and Harper. Each player is shopping around because no one is offering more for either of them. Its sounds crazy but who knows.

Of course, and it's different for every city and every situation. Its what makes economic sense for growth and revenue. That's why any hardline stance either way doesn't work. There has to be some tax incentive to bribe the companies in, because if they don't there is always someone who will, but it needs to make sense for the situation.

He did not have bad command in college. His last year he had over a 3/1 K/BB ratio and a 1.03 WHIP. Also if you watch any of his games he was dominant. The other things could be considered but the command wasnt bad.

Im Hoping its Jimenez, Hamilton, Burdi, Cease if not Machado.

So you propose spending more money than you need to just because someone else wants it?

That's what the what he said. He didn't say the number, I'm not sure what the number is from the top 1% of tax payers.

It's a fine line between the two. They need to decide if caving in is worth it. They decided it wasn't. However, if they do it too often it can be detrimental. There is no revenue without businesses and tax payers.

There was an article in one of the NY papers discussing this with their governor Cuomo. He said that the top 1% of the tax payers paid 46% of the revenue in 2017. They raised the taxes on that group and one third of them moved their primary residence to Florida causing a 3.5 billion dollar loss in revenue last year. People who can afford to move will, if they increase the burden to a critical amount. It's just depends if the state can figure out that critical amount.

You also need to factor in that some cities have an extra tax on people who work in the city for less than 4 days at a time. This is a tax to specifically target athletes as for some reason it doesn't apply to business travelers who attend meetings in said city.

I guess they can find 20000 jobs anywhere. Those tax payers would help the state revenue off set the millionaires leaving the state.

No but those schools would be sufficient for local talent. No one area is going to supply all 15000 to 25000 employees. It will draw from around the country to bring new people to the city.

I thought we argued all summer that it's all about the money and nothing but the money. Players will always go to the team that offers the most money. End of story. Has your view changed on this?

The other possiblity is that they are waiting for one of the GMs to blink and offer more money. Waiting just because they don't want to play on the White Sox doesn't make sense. It doesn't have to be that they don't want to play for the Sox, there are other possibilities. It could just be that they are trying to squeeze every penny out of any team and there is no hurry to go to spring training.

Well, he's not one of these guys who shows he's happy just to show it to people. He's happy on the inside. He doesn't need to show it.

Along with the tickets reps, administrative assistants, ground crew, among others, except the department heads they probably make 6 figures. Loyal employers generally create a great working environment. Do you think changing mangers and front office people on a regular basis will lead to a successful team? Look at the successful teams in any professional sports and they typically have continuity in management.

The vast majority of the employees have no bearing on the wins and loses and don't have 6 or 7 figure jobs.

Going deep for a band from berwyn in the Chicago area.

New Orleans has Tulane, Loyola and LSU not too far away to support them.

He's a good business man. Unless there are laws he's broken in this deal that haven't been publicized. Good for NYC for not caving into whatever he was demanding.

Best thread title yet. The Padres being used to drive up the price.