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QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 02:13 PM) Have any teams drafted multiple players from the same team like the Sox this year? Saving on the travel scouting budget Maybe the coaching philosophy fits in with the theme of this draft.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 01:19 PM) No. There is such a thing as heart rate zones, wherein your body will burn different types of fuel depending on how hard your heart is having to pump blood throughout your muscles. Google heart rate zones or heart rate training. Generally, the fat burning zone is going to be zone 2, which is generally going to be 65-75% of your maximum heart rate, depending on your age, fitness level, and a number of other factors. The standard, albeit not necessarily correct method of calculating your maximum heart rate is 220 minus your age. So if you are 23, your maximum heart rate would be 197 according to this method. It is likely that it is somewhere in that area. Therefore, your ideal fat burning zone would be between 65-75% of 197. This equals a range of 128 and 148. If your heart is beating somewhere in that range you are likely burning a lot of stored fat. So the 145 you are at is probably pretty good for burning fat! If you are getting up to 160 or so, you are probably in zone 3, which is a zone where you will begin burning some readily available carbs that you ate recently. This isn't necessarily a bad thing at all, but if your goal is to lose weight, you would do best to train more in zone 2. As your heart has to work harder, your body begins to burn more carbs because it requires less oxygen than burning fat. This is really important. You don't want to work too hard either as it puts too much stress on your physiology. An even better way to determine you target training zone for heart rate is the karvonen formula. Here is how you calculate it: The Energy Efficient/Recovery Zone – 60% to 70% The Aerobic Zone – 70% to 80% The Anaerobic Zone – 80% to 90% The Red Line Zone 90% to 100% Wikipedia does an excellent job of describing the Karnoven Method: Target Heart Rate = ((Maximum Heart Rate – Resting Heart Rate) × %Intensity) + Resting Heart Rate So, for someone with a Maximum Heart Rate of 180 and a Resting Heart Rate of 70 we have two examples: For A 50% Target Heart Rate: ((180 − 70) × 0.50) + 70 = 125 bpm For a 85% Target Heart Rate: ((180 − 70) × 0.85) + 70 = 163 bpm This is really nice as it not only takes the individual into account with the resting heart rate but also individualizes the day with it as well. Still not as accurate as a VO2 max but it is about the best an individual can do.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 01:00 PM) This is more or less the approach in the Day 3 under the new CBA. If you have enough saved from the first 2 days, you'd open the day with a couple of high profile high school picks and hope that you can use your savings to pry them away from college commitment. If you do not have significant savings, you are basically picking guys who will sign for $100K or less and hope that they bloom late. So no, there aren't usually many BPA picks in day 3. I expect the Sox to start picking a few high schoolers starting in the mid 20 rounds. They would pick the higher profile high schoolers to generate goodwill for future drafts, and the lower profile kids (i.e. the token ACE picks) and hope that they will sign for whatever budget they have left until they hit the loss of pick penalty. Day 3, yes. It's always been for filler. But not rounds 1-10.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 10:55 AM) Actually, it is proven to burn the most calories, and may burn more fat (although a lesser percentage of total calories) than longer endurance type cardio, although that depends on how much, how long, etc. HIIT training is awesome, and if you can do it once every week or two, that is likely enough. During the remainder of your workout days, it is good to do lower intensity endurance-type training, perhaps 2-3 workouts per week. Definitely agree with everyone on strength training exercises and diet being a big part of the equation as well. The key to any workout plan is intervals and variety. If you plan on exercises for a long time the body will accommodate and the workouts will be less effective. don't get into a rut you will stagnate both physiologically and mentally. The stagnation happens most often with cardio. People get on the same machine or on the treadmill do the same amount of time at the same pace. This is a poor way to do it. Vary the pace and it will be a much more effective workout.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 12:21 PM) I don't think rounds 3-10 feature a BPA that is so obvious. Likely have similar tiers and this draft have veered toward the college profile in those tiers due to either feeling more confident in projecting them or signability. This is what they did more than anything. They went high floor instead of high ceiling.

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 12:22 PM) I never said that. They are selecting more advanced players that require less projection. That makes sense. your quote about drafting players specifically for the 10-20 range instead of the 1-5 range range had me confused.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 12:13 PM) This dude is pretty old. The proper term is "advanced and mature."

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 12:10 PM) I think this is dead on. This wasn't a draft where the club was looking to bolster its 1-5 prospect rankings. This draft looks like one that will be used to provide actual depth in the 10-15, 15-20 area going forward. Hahn has talked about this being priority. Rebuilding means you're going to get your fair share of very high picks in the future which will allow you to restock the top of the farm system. The goal of this draft seems to be to ensure that the club is developing real depth in the lower rungs. This can't be right. You're saying they are purposely not drafting the best players available, that could be ranked high, just to have depth?

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 12:04 PM) I think that they're securing the foundation of the system and adding some much needed depth with college guys. So that when they draft that raw prep player, it won't be such a blow if they don't work out. Does that make sense? It looks like they are trying to recreate the Moneyball A's. They are confident in their ability to develop pitchers, so they are creating a team of power hitting, OBP players with no positions to generate runs with no defense. I guess this supplements the athletic players like Moncada and Robert

QUOTE (BamaDoc @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 11:40 AM) Surprised by the lack of high schoolers overall. Thought they had stated a desire to take many. Smokescreen? I think the comment from Hahn about "take fewer swing and miss" guys implies they wanted more advanced type bats. thus less HS and more college bats.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 11:48 AM) Gyorko is a very solid player, I would not be disappointed if Burger turned out like him at all. He's not necessarily a "star", but he's very solid. We need more players like that. You really can't be disappointed in any draft pick making a contribution to an MLB roster. You're elated when they become a star but just making a solid contribution is a win.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 04:25 AM) https://finance.yahoo.com/news/inside-ubers...-194232221.html I should have added male privilege to the thread title, just to be clear/er. Yes you should. Teaching at a primarily minority institution, I am constantly reminded as a Caucasian, male, I am the cause of the problems with the world.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 09:32 PM) Add Leury Garcia to the list. Hopefully being around Hanson, Yolmer and Saladino will rub off...obviously not all of those players can fit on the roster, though. And of course you'd rather have all your future starters (Anderson/Moncada/Burger or Davidson) with the "plus" defensive skills. Avisail Garcia, etc. I guess the back-up plan for Anderson is moving him to CF with Leury at SS. C Collins 3B Burger SS Anderson/Leury 2B Moncada 1B Davidson/Delmonico/Sheets LF Luis Robert CF Tim Anderson RF Avi Garcia DH (rotating) Abreu for next two years That has the looks of an interesting offense. Plus top 5 pick next year, probably another college hitter. And a plethora of starting pitching depth in the minors to trade from to meet needs. You do realize that you have 3 players who don't have US professional plate appearances and 2 others that have no MLB plate appearances on this list. Not all of them will be good MLB players.

QUOTE (turnin' two @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 08:37 PM) Is it? 4 years of an Olympic sport in basic anonymity , which you have no opportunity to play beyond college, vs, approximately $160,000 and the chance to play baseball for a long time and be a multi-mega-millionaire. It may not be that tough to pass up, unless he really, really loved water polo. It is if his heart is in water polo. That is like getting a track scholarship to Oregon. It's the pinnacle of the sport. If you're just looking at money then baseball it is. Usually anyone offered a spot at Long Beach is serious about water polo though.

QUOTE (heirdog @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 06:02 PM) http://www.theolympian.com/sports/high-sch...e155989344.html Seems like Abbott is going to sign... I'm shocked. I guess his heart wasn't in water polo. That's a tough one to pass up.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 05:58 PM) The counter point would be that Alvarez is an Olympian. Doesn't matter. That group worked harder than any of the olympians did.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 05:34 PM) Be interested to see a contest between he and Eddy Alvarez. I worked with speed skaters and the Long Beach State water polo team at the Olympic training center in colorado springs one year. there is no contest. The water polo teams were the best fit athletes of any group at the center. Their workouts were insane. Their warmup was 5x500 yard swims with 100 sit ups and push ups between each. Then the workout started. If have never seen another group work as hard and long as that group.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 04:41 PM) Can he play water polo and then join the minors after that season is over I guarantee he will be the player who is the most physically fit in the organization if he does.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 04:39 PM) Abbott will sign. The Sox aren't going to draft someone in the 8th round who won't sign. Find the last time the Sox failed to sign a Top 10 pick. I'm going the other way. I can't imagine a water polo player, signed to Long Beach State won't go there. His scholarship is worth more than the slot money. Unless the sox go way overslot, I don't think there's much of a chance.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 04:09 PM) The kid has committed to Long Beach State for Water Polo. Crazy. No chance the sox sign him then. That's one of the top water polo schools in the nation. Must have picked him knowing they won't sign him and save some money. edit: didn't realize they can't use the slot money. It's a weird pick, unless they just did it to draft him again in a few years and create some good will.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 02:55 PM) I don't know how high the star power is on this draft, but it certainly seems like very nice depth to system. These guys each seem like they have legitimate shots with their talent and profile of making big league level. Similar to 2016, probably what you get when it's so college heavy. But these guys do not seem like projects at all. Yes. very conservative, safe draft. No star potential but maybe a few soild MLB players.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 10:59 PM) Don't forget about dessert - a Danish. Nice.

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 10:49 PM) Burger and Beer with a side of Fry.

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 07:24 PM) I just don't get how an entire board of adults can be so uneducated on the effects of domestic violence. My only hope is that you and your fellow posters are simply the outspoken minority. I hope to god more people here are just smarter because you are a scathing indictment on the education level of men in today's society. On the contrary, I am a mandatory reporter in the state of Illinois. I have been to numerous courses on the topic. However, I also have the same for psychological and emotional abuse as well, something I have a feeling you do not.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 12:02 AM) Went on the DL last pitching in late April with "Right elbow neuritis". From a little research it seems that rest is the first course of treatment followed by surgery if the condition does not resolve itself. Anyone have any more insights into how he's doing and what's up? This was going to be an odd one regardless of the White Sox odd treatment of injuries this year. Ulnar neuritis typically comes from the nerve stretching over the joint because the joint is loose. The joint shouldn't be loose due to the previous TJS. Also with the TJS, they typically due an unlar nerve transposition, where they take the nerve and move it from below the elbow to above the elbow. This will stop any chance of an irritation occurring due to scar tissue or stress in the area. Since the anatomy has been altered by surgery, it is difficult to know what is going on.