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QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 06:46 PM) Either this place is dead from the Sox poor record or this thread has run its course even before the whole thing started. This is supposed to be fun,celebrate the little leagues, honor people who made you the player you are now and those who support you. Wear colorful cleats, swing a colorful bat . it's a pretty big deal around the league this weekend. Are they selling it ? Of course what good idea doesn't get promoted and sold these days ? It's a consumer society. I'm not going to spend any money on it but I still think it's something to promote baseball, it's cool it's fun , it gets people talking . Baseball is losing interest in US kids. It's a problem that must be dealt with. This is part of that process. Lighten up all you Francis's. Agreed. It's getting a little to serious. It's a sport/entertainment.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 05:38 PM) Didn't Tilson have a stress reaction? Yes he did. But in his foot. The smaller, curved bones in the foot make it a much nastier injury.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 04:57 PM) Lauren Magiera‏Verified account @LaurenMagiera 29m29 minutes ago Yoan Moncada said he underwent an MRI and blood tests this morning. Came back clear, just shin splints and a contusion. #Sox Ok. There could be a separate contusion but i don't think so.

QUOTE (Scoots @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 03:35 PM) Its the same injury Matt Davidson had. Contusion. He'll be back first or second week of September. Doesn't give us much more time to see him this year though. It's not a contusion though. Davidson had a hit on the wrist to cause a contusion of the soft tissue ie bruise. Moncada did not have this. the "bone contusion" really doesn't exist. They are using an improper term.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 05:19 PM) I am going to go to the game in a week and see nobody I wanted to see. Lopez, Moncada, and not possibly Nicky? They've been winning too any games. Put the hot players on the DL to stem the winning.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 03:02 PM) "Ptatc," should we be worried about Moncada's long term health, or is this the kind of thing that will heal? When I hear "shin splints,' I think of Micky Mantle. That was the condition to which was attributed his loss of, once dynamic speed. Is shin splints the correct label for this diagnosis? Most likely not. There are occasions where it lasts even after periods of rest like Kevin White where bony changes occurred. Generally though conservative interventions and rest will take care of it. They will need to look at his off season and in season training and especially footwear to look for the etiology. Baseball footwear can really cause issues due to the firmness of the outsole and spikes.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 01:26 PM) So yeah, the 10 day DL people are being serious about that right? And it's a "Bone contusion"? Is that going to fit under the realm of shin splints? Or did he get HBP there or something and make it worse? Exactly. It's not really a contusion but the effect on the bone is the same as the stress reaction. It's just an insidious onset as opposed to a traumatic one.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Aug 25, 2017 -> 01:22 PM) Being put on 10 day DL with bone contusion. Matty Davidson reinstated. Bone contusion is not the correct term. It really should be the stress reaction terminology. But I think that will scare too many people.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 11:31 PM) The massive revenue the team takes in from its current TV and radio contracts, along with the guaranteed profits courtesy of the sweetheart lease deal, paid for Robert's bonus long before this windfall came along. Hostetler was on the radio over the weekend and made a point amount the big increase in the scouting, analytics and minor league budget this past year. He said this priority coincided with the rebuilding philosophy

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 11:02 PM) I know I am talking to myself at this point but saw a perfect example of some of what I was talking about above in tonight's Twins/Sox game. Greg Gibson was the home plate umpire. Of course like all umps he set up over the catchers right shoulder . To me that gives him a better view of the catchers right hand side of the plate. He seemed very accurate on the balls and strikes there. On the opposite side of the plate he wasn't so good. Several times he called pitches by Berrios that were clearly off the plate according to pitch trax on the telecast strikes .I'm pretty sure it happened 3 or 4 times ,some more egregious than others. I couldn't help but think those pitches will go down as well framed since they were called strikes when in reality it was clearly on the umpire and perhaps Berrios who seemed to have the pitches to his arm side fade off the plate many times during the night , up and in to righties but down and away to left handers. Now if I was keeping a book on umps I'd investigate games with Gibson behind the plate and see if that is the way he consistently calls games. You are absolutely correct on this. I noticed the same thing during the game. Narvaez was befuddled by some of the calls on the outside part of the plate and Berrios was smart enough to keep throwing it out there.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 10:46 PM) A least it's not like Tilson and his constant stress reactions but it's nothing to sneeze at, they are painful. Don't know if reoccur after rest or not. For the Sox sake they better not be on-going. They could be stress reactions similar to Tilsons. Howwever ones in the tibia generally arent as troublesome as ones in the foot due to the shape of the bone. Although Kevin White would disagree. Ithink this one is more soft tissue related.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 24, 2017 -> 09:36 PM) Having issues with shin splints. I read that is can take a minimum couple weeks of rest and up to six Months to heal He's had them for most of the season. It won't get substantially better until he rests in the off season. By the stumble that caused it, i would guess it's his posterior tibial tendon as the MTSS cause.

nicky ribeye really needs to stop dropping the bat on 3 ball counts when he thinks it's a walk. Umps really don't like it. Yesterday he did it and there were 3 straight Ks with the bases loaded from a pitcher who doesn't K many. The strike zone will change after he does it.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 03:44 PM) Maybe. But we have to remember they get warmup pitches before the inning starts so that seems like a good time to try to get the feel for it. Again I will plead ignorance because maybe he did do that . I have no idea how they approach warmup pitches before the start of an inning. But again I was impressed . He's supposed to have a great curve and good changeup. I still think he can be a TOR starter with fastball (2 and 4 seam), curve and changeup. He's not even close to a finished product. Even for those worried about his FB speed. (avg 93.2 for the game) commanding it is more important. Once he gets enough reps with all three pitches and can consistently repeat his mechanics he will be very good. But no one should expect that soon. This as with all pitchers is the key. When he got a little wild you could see him get under his FB and CH and it would sail high. The impressive part was that he recognized it and corrected it within at bats. I really like the fact that he was willing to go inside to LH and when he missed it was further inside. He's got it mentally. I don't think he is too far away.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 22, 2017 -> 08:10 PM) Giolito looks like a guy that is going to pitch his best "effectively wild". Being aggressive inside to hitters, especially LH is the key

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Aug 20, 2017 -> 02:17 PM) Well, maybe I missed all of this in school as well as the fact that half don't make sense. 1) When would Kevin White have time to watch ALL of Fitz's games? 2) Get out of the gate QUICKLY is what he meant 3) Not sure hideous is a word to describe the way a football team's DB's play 4) I've never heard the dog expression in my life Obviously not from a farm. The expression means that when young dogs are aggressive enough and not intimidated by the older dogs, they will be good dogs and leaders of the pack later on.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 9, 2017 -> 06:58 PM) http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...=&players=0 White Sox last, and it's not even close...for cumulative team fWAR (position players). Only a 30.2 spread to make up with the Blue Jays. They have scored more runs per game than the Blue Jays.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 1, 2017 -> 04:09 PM) I think this is the problem I am having, and then the redirects are getting blocked. I was having this issue earlier today. It is working now though.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 05:22 PM) It's one practice ptatc, c'mon. And usually I would give the benefit of the doubt for an organization. Not the Chargers who've had a LONG history with questionable decision making on their players. I'm not saying I would look at it this way but I've known coaches that would. i think this is a different case as it's a new coach, a new city and it's the first day of camp. I wouldn't hold them back but I'm not surprised that an NFL coach did.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 05:16 PM) Chargers telling Rivers and Gates they can't attend Tomlinson's HOF enshrinement. New city, same s***ty leadership. I think many coaches especially ones new to the team would do the same thing. Coaches take first day of camp seriously.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 04:47 PM) People keep using this as an argument and I don't buy it. I'd love to be proven wrong but I don't see them competing in that way. Majority of fans are: Cubs fans or Sox fans. The % of people that are "I'm going to whichever team is doing well" is probably pennies in the grand scheme of revenue. The Sox have been and will continue to be "2nd" due to a variety of hostorical factors out of the teams control (neighborhood, old school national broadcast stuff, etc.) and no single trade or a couple bad years for the Cubs is going to change any of that. My entire 'meathead' argument is solely based on not wanting to trade with them. Cheer against the Cubs all you want, but if the scouts & FO you trusted to be in charge of the team tell you "This trade with the Cubs is our best offer and will make the team better" you fuggin do it and none of the stupid "but I hate them Cubbies!!!" arguments should be anywhere near that decision. It hurts JR's business to help the Cubs win. It's as simple as that. However as you can see he did come to the same conclusion you did. Take the better deal. It will still hurt his business. There are articles every about what trades were the best and worst between the teams. This trades will be discussed for decades if it helps the Cubs to win another world series.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 09:54 AM) Billionaire owner of the team with the same mindset as a meathead fan. You are way off base here. He competes with the Cubs for the almighty dollar. Ad revenues, TV/radio broadcasts etc. While the team isn't in direct competition for games and playoffs, the owners are certainly in competition for Chicago.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 05:49 PM) Is the sky blue? Is water wet? Not below 0 degrees celsius.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 04:31 PM) Something like this could spell the end of the sport. The NFL has already tried taken the Tobacco lobby road and pretending it doesn't exist and burying it into a lot of other things that it COULD be... so far it has cost them a billion dollars, and some horrible publicity. I already know of parents who aren't letting their kids play youth football because of it. The NFL has got to be proactive with this, especially at the youth level. I don't think it will be the end of the NFL for 2 reasons. 1. gambling 2. the players make too much money not to have people want to play. there may be a decrease in participation but it will still be there. the parents who won't let kids play are falling for the media hype and are really uninformed about the real CTE. The kids are susceptible in basketball and soccer as well. There just isn't enough known about it. They may be better off not letting them take pain meds with any injuries.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 04:11 PM) The problem is that this is a number that is way above zero in a situation where anything above zero is a really bad thing. Even if we are talking something way less extreme like 10%, that is something like 150 people per YEAR that are going to suffer debilitating brain damage. That can't be an acceptable number. But what caused it? If it occurs so often in non-pro athletes what do you do to stop it? Make all opiates illegal? Tell everyone not to hit their head during everyday life? controlling for all factors is nearly impossible but they can try. it is acceptable if they choose to participate. Football is a collision sport. they are trying to limit the exposure to concussions but they can't eliminate it. Players won't allow it. they'll lire about their head hurting and say it's their shoulder. When I was working in the NFL in the late 80's/early 90's, we asked players if they knew PEDs would take 10 years off their lives would they still take them. The answers were overwhelmingly yes. Why, because where else can they make that kind of money for their families.