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QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ May 5, 2017 -> 02:03 PM) That's a great idea. I think we'll do that. I can see my son going either way really. He could think he's hot s*** for knowing all the answers and enjoy feeling that way, or he will get bored and distracted and cause trouble. I guess we'll see in a few short months! Good Luck! My son was square in the "idle hands are the devils workshop" category. I remember one time they had a worksheet or something to do at a group table. The group couldn't go to the play area until everybody in the group finished. He finished his and took everyone's sheet and finished it for them so they could get to the play area. Once the teacher gave him the extra things we gave her, he was fine but it took us awhile to figure out how to keep him out of trouble.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 5, 2017 -> 01:46 PM) I found this story at the Chicago Baseball Museum very interesting on the impact the reduction in baseball coverage is having on the fans, the business and the game. I don't agree with every one of the author's points, (for example I understand why some of the smaller area newspapers have decided to emphasize high school coverage) but he does seem to accurately present what is happening today and the impact on everyone. I recommend reading this if you are so inclined: http://www.chicagobaseballmuseum.org/files...ss-20170503.pdf I would agree with most of this as well. I think much of this decline has to do with the proliferation and availability of advanced metrics. The dedicated fan can get a ton of this information themselves and can draw their own opinion of any player in the league. They do not need to listen to the opinions or get information from the "experts" in the media. I really enjoyed reading and listening to guys like Stark and McAdam but why would their opinion be any better than the stats that are so readily available now? I think that is driving the decrease in coverage.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 5, 2017 -> 01:42 PM) FYI, two of us FS writers will be at this game. Rob and I will both be tweeting out some bits from what we see, on the FS feed (@FutureSox) as well as our personal ones (@RobertHYoung, @Matt_Cassidy). Full reports, videos and interviews up later. We will hit KAN tonight, then split up to hit both CHAR and KAN on Saturday and Sunday. KAN again Monday, Winston-Salem Tue-Wed. What an awesome time. When I retire, can you hire me to do this trip?

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ May 5, 2017 -> 10:54 AM) So my wife and I took our oldest kid to a kindergarten orientation yesterday at the school he'll be going to in the fall. Holy crap was that a surreal experience. He's in a kindergarten class now with the same curriculum at his daycare, but for some reason being at the school itself made it more "real." Definitely brought back memories of my own childhood with the small lockers, the hallways, etc. It was a bit frustrating hearing the Principal talk so much about data and standardized testing. It's a blue ribbon school so i'm sure they've gotten everything down to a science in terms of preparing the kids for each subsequent grade, but it all seemed like a factory. Maybe it was that way when I was a kid too, I dunno. I sure never felt like that as a student though. I was also a little surprised that they were telling parents that it was ok if your 5 year old didn't know any letters or numbers yet. My son can do simple math and has already started reading. He's going to be in trouble all the time if he has to start back at square one. My boy was in the same situation. If you want a little advice, find something he likes to do, my son liked word finds and coloring race cars, and bring them to the teacher before the year starts. Explain to the the teacher that when your child is done with their work, give him/her these otherwise my child will get bored and make your life a living hell. We figured this out halfway through kindergarten and did it every year until 3rd grade. Most teachers were receptive to it once he caused issues when he was bored.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 5, 2017 -> 11:13 AM) PTATC: Not trying to be arrogant. At least I try to "talk" conversationally with other posters and not "down" to them or try to show how clever I am with one-liners that are snarky in nature and demeaning. (Not saying you do by the way). I put my name on posts because the other sites I participate in that's the way it's done. Nothing more, nothing less. I didn't realize that doing so here makes you "arrogant." But that's fine...from now on I won't use my name anymore. Hope that makes you happy. doesn't matter to me either way. I just thought that is was humorous in this situation because you were the only one who did this. As I don't go to any other boards, I didn't realize other boards did this as no one else here seems to do it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 4, 2017 -> 10:38 PM) Greg does do the whole third person thing. I guess if you signed every post "Ptatc" at the end, it would be more authoritative, lol...like "PTATC has spoken, that's officially the end of the debate." On the other hand, it's hard for professional writers to get rid of their habits. I'm pretty sure it's something he picked up as a journalist and then online blogger, and I suppose it does make you more "familiar" with someone if you see their first name repetitively. Oh please. I have to sign my name and my credentials every time I write a patient note. You don't see my write my name with EdD,PT,MHS,SCS,ATC after each time I post on here like I do with every patient.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 4, 2017 -> 07:18 PM) I'd like to hear ptatc's take on Nate's throwing motion. It looks very hard on the elbow to me the way he moves he arm way away from his body then heaves it home. I will accept ptatc's take on the matter. I think he has always been an injury waiting to happen. I've always wondered about that really slow windup but other than that it really isn't remarkable. He does throw from a pretty low arm slot, that can add stress to the elbow.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 4, 2017 -> 10:07 PM) Oh the arrogance. Mark This from the only person who signs his name to each post. Ironic

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 4, 2017 -> 12:22 PM) Apparently this injury doesn't seem to be overly serious and they hope he's back within 2 weeks or so. Perhaps it was more cautionary than anything else. I wonder if this isn't more of the very conservative approach they are taking this year? Numbness and tingling into the hand is not a good sign for him.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 4, 2017 -> 10:03 AM) Dammit. I literally just acquired him in my league. Is he drop worthy? Yes. The neuritis can only be coming from stress at the elbow. Not a good sign from a previous TJ.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 3, 2017 -> 03:21 PM) I think actually hitting him or something by the head should be a requirement for a suspension. Fine him all you want, but this was low and behind him. I agree. Shoulders or above big suspension. Otherwise take his money for charity.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 4, 2017 -> 10:25 AM) KW literally called Lorenzo Barcelo, the guy who was supposed to be the crown jewel in the white flag trade a p**** for complaining about pain, and they played the dance with him for a while. In the end, he required both elbow and shoulder surgery. There seems to be more wrong than the Sox had hoped here. I don't think the 60 day DL is a big deal because he wasn't going to be back before that was up anyway. But this has gone on way too long with what seems like a ton of super secrecy. Yeah, that was about their timeline, even though it is still rather long. I still go back to maybe they just are letting the others pitch and taking their time here.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 4, 2017 -> 09:59 AM) The one thing that randomly popped into my head is a disconnect between the parties, If the Sox are getting all of this data that show Rodon is OK, and Rodon still feels like he is hurting maybe that is the what the disconnect is about? Honestly I have no idea. I mean I would imagine if something were seriously wrong, they would just shut him down and look at surgery. You gain nothing from making him throw through a serious injury, and the Sox have never struck me as that sort of organization. Always possible.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 4, 2017 -> 09:15 AM) This reminds me of Mark Prior. Nothing was wrong until it was. If we ever hear about towel drills, look out. With Prior they at least said there was nothing and he kept trying to pitch. They finally determined is was like Danks' issue where the joint was just too loose and it was causing a number of issues. With this they've reportedly determined what the issues is and are rehabbing it. Which is the correct rehab protocol just really have extended the time.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 4, 2017 -> 08:14 AM) So you think it's a lat issue. Most reports have said bicep bursitis . Could he have both or one led to the other ? It's nearly impossible too tell. I had only seen a few lat issues in pitchers before Peavy came along but now it seems that ever other injury involves it. I used to see it in javelin throwers not pitchers. I'm still trying to figure that out. Pitchers do use the muscle extensively but it's such a big strong muscle that it's usually the smaller ones that cause issues. The distal attachment of the lat is right under the biceps tendon but not really close to the bursa. Although, I still don't buy the bursitis for the reasons I've mentioned earlier. Bursitis is a couple of weeks tops not 5-6 minimum. There is something else going on but without doing the manual tests and seeing the imaging, who knows.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 3, 2017 -> 02:14 PM) I appears they are trying to put off the inevitable "exploratory surgery". FML. There really isn't that type of surgery anymore. With all of the advanced imaging, they usually have a pretty good idea of what's going on. It's usually the extant of the damage that isn't known prior to surgery. If they really thought this was an option he wouldn't be throwing at all. However, as I've said from the beginning this case is so odd that anything is possible. I've don't recall a team being so conservative with all of these "reported" injuries, especially this team with Herm running the training staff.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 4, 2017 -> 07:52 AM) I think the reason the media thought the Sox got the best of that deal was because the media was behind about Giolito . The Nats and the Sox were both fully aware of his struggles. Since the Sox clearly trust their pitching coaches to fix problems they couldn't pass up 3 highly thought of pitchers even if the ranking of Giolito versus the reality of him misled many at 1st. I agree. Anytime you can get 3 quality pitching prospects for a position player, who isn't MVP caliber such as Trout or Harper, it's going to get press.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 4, 2017 -> 07:14 AM) That is some petty and impressive grudgeholding. Everybody needs a goal in life.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 3, 2017 -> 11:12 AM) It's not even just the velocity, but just going by the hard contact off of him this year, it doesn't appear his spin rate has drastically improved. The swings that the opposition gets off the fastball are scary. The spin rate has nothing to do with it. It looks like he is so afraid to have poor command of the fastball that he leaves it over the plate to much. It's the command that the issue. The location is too good for the hitters too often. If he throws a strike it's too good of a hitters pitch.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 3, 2017 -> 08:38 AM) My wife really wants the socialization aspect, and my cop cousin warned us off of home day care places (he gets lots of calls out to them for various issues). I think the couple of places we've checked out work out to about $6/hour. We used two separate places that were excellent for daycare. No matter where you go it is expensive. The two biggest "raises" when you have kids is when they get out of diapers and when you are done with daycare.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ May 3, 2017 -> 08:27 AM) I feel like they might as well move him to the 60-day dl. I mean, they could if they wanted to add someone to the 40 eventually. It really shouldn't be that long. Usually around 3 weeks or so. But with the way they are treating rehab this year who knows.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ May 2, 2017 -> 11:16 PM) News isn't great for Shields, so much for that "quick" recovery and Rodon's is becoming more and more head scratching every day: http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...picId=27118146 Mark As I said before, there was no way a lat strain was just going to be a 10 day DL, especially with how conservative the medical team is being with everyone this year.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 2, 2017 -> 03:14 PM) You don't but you also don't have too much young hitting. It seems every team that wants Q won't give up their best position prospect, and that is for an established pretty cheap guy signed for a while. The Sox have to get some hitters. I think the draft pitchers, trade for pitchers, you can trade for hitters later, doesn't work. At this moment, they have plenty of pitching prospects. They have to work on run scoring. That wasn't the comment. The comment was " this is the perils of having too much young pitching." There are no perils to too much young pitching.

QUOTE (BaseballNick @ May 2, 2017 -> 02:20 PM) Of course no one would complain about having an abundance of cost controlled pitching, but also remember the White Sox system was so barren of any hitting talent, that twice in recent years they had to hit the free agent market for a DH (Thome and Dunn). Spending good money on a DH reeks of desperation. Ideally, I think you want a mixture of position players and pitchers. As for the bolded, look no further than Trea Turner, Alex Bregman, Dansby Swanson, etc. all of whom were said to be off limits in trades for Q. I don't think the prime asset has to be cost controlled pitching anymore. That wasn't the comment. The comment was " this is the perils of having too much young pitching." There are no perils to too much young pitching.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 2, 2017 -> 01:30 PM) Also highlights the perils of trying to build solely around young pitching, or at least primarily. The Sox for their part have usually done a good job of balancing out youth with proven vets at the MLB level and also having enough depth in the minors to weather injury storms. That said, what can the Mets offer for Q? I think this is the best way to approach it. Cost controlled pitching is the prime asset in MLB. As stated before it's how they coach them to pitch that is key. Young pitching as a group will have less injury issues than old pitchers. I don't think I've ever heard anyone in baseball say having to much young MLB pitching is an issue.