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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 15, 2017 -> 10:36 AM) Invest a million into my local HS. Most likely a state of the art track facility. Payoff all debts, and start investing into some long term real estate and securities. Awesome idea.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 15, 2017 -> 10:30 AM) I am not sure if I am the only one, but after all was said and done, I am pretty disappointed too. There just isn't a whole lot of high ceilings in the bunch. It felt a lot more like a Kenny Williams draft with a lot of high floors. We drafted one HS that we will sign (in all likelihood the late draftees aren't signing), and he is as far away as the 16 year olds in the DR from the sounds of it. I thought Kenny Williams drafted too many athletes who weren't baseball players like Barnum, Hawkins and Mitchell.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 06:18 PM) You keep saying this and continue to not acknowledge there a maturity curve with young players. Just because a young struggles in year one does not mean he will be a bad player and it most definitely doesn't mean the future is bleak. Very true. But if they all struggle to the point the team is bad, it's an issue. They can have isolated struggles, they probably should, but they can't all be bad for the entire time.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 09:51 PM) Hayes, May and Delmonico cooling now... What, you mean players get hot then cool off throughout the season. Say it isn't so!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 06:04 PM) The immediate future is pretty ugly. Again, it depends on who the Sox replace the traded players with. If it's just filler players then yes it will be ugly. If it's some of the more highly touted players, then they better hope it isn't ugly.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 05:54 PM) Well, once they "rid themselves" of Frazier and a couple bullpen pieces and/or whatever scraps they can get for Melky and the veteran SP they will really be a bad team. The pen has held this team together for the most part. I can see the Sox going on an epic losing streak in August. Who will they replace them with? If it's the highly touted young players, you should hope they won't be a bad team. Otherwise the future is bleak.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 04:29 PM) You also want to make sure you are picking guys who are signable within your budget in the first 10 rounds so you do not lose slot value. You really can't make too many high ceiling high school picks unless you have go underslot your first few picks. They picked none.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 04:16 PM) Is that who that is? Is he legit or just BS? College basketball coach. Was good at Marquette, not so much at Indiana. No idea about the kid.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 03:55 PM) I think a lot of these formulas, while they can be useful for some baseline stuff, are overrated and overused. I've never been a huge fan of any "one size fits all" approaches to fitness as different people will respond to different workouts in different ways. Diet and consistency will fix any issue a person has...if you want size, you can't utilize the same diet as a person that's trying to shed weight, for example. Cutting bodyfat WHILE adding size can be a very difficult proposition for many, but it was quite easy for me...but that's genetics, and those genetics allow me to get away with a LOT that others would not be able to get away with. That's why this one is better than most. It uses the individuals resting heart rate as a variable. There are definite levels of exertion than are needed to work the body properly and others that work the body too hard. You need to be sure the workout is safe for a person to handle.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 03:43 PM) To see comments on twitter that say this guy is the face of liberalism is so predictable. Its coming from the same people that call all Muslims terrorists. They love to paint with a broad brush with everything. Generalize everything so that when actual facts are brought to the forefront to dispute your claim your comfortable retreat will be to just go back to the same generalization. Which Trump followers eat up every single damn time. Now that's funny.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 02:13 PM) Have any teams drafted multiple players from the same team like the Sox this year? Saving on the travel scouting budget Maybe the coaching philosophy fits in with the theme of this draft.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 01:19 PM) No. There is such a thing as heart rate zones, wherein your body will burn different types of fuel depending on how hard your heart is having to pump blood throughout your muscles. Google heart rate zones or heart rate training. Generally, the fat burning zone is going to be zone 2, which is generally going to be 65-75% of your maximum heart rate, depending on your age, fitness level, and a number of other factors. The standard, albeit not necessarily correct method of calculating your maximum heart rate is 220 minus your age. So if you are 23, your maximum heart rate would be 197 according to this method. It is likely that it is somewhere in that area. Therefore, your ideal fat burning zone would be between 65-75% of 197. This equals a range of 128 and 148. If your heart is beating somewhere in that range you are likely burning a lot of stored fat. So the 145 you are at is probably pretty good for burning fat! If you are getting up to 160 or so, you are probably in zone 3, which is a zone where you will begin burning some readily available carbs that you ate recently. This isn't necessarily a bad thing at all, but if your goal is to lose weight, you would do best to train more in zone 2. As your heart has to work harder, your body begins to burn more carbs because it requires less oxygen than burning fat. This is really important. You don't want to work too hard either as it puts too much stress on your physiology. An even better way to determine you target training zone for heart rate is the karvonen formula. Here is how you calculate it: The Energy Efficient/Recovery Zone – 60% to 70% The Aerobic Zone – 70% to 80% The Anaerobic Zone – 80% to 90% The Red Line Zone 90% to 100% Wikipedia does an excellent job of describing the Karnoven Method: Target Heart Rate = ((Maximum Heart Rate – Resting Heart Rate) × %Intensity) + Resting Heart Rate So, for someone with a Maximum Heart Rate of 180 and a Resting Heart Rate of 70 we have two examples: For A 50% Target Heart Rate: ((180 − 70) × 0.50) + 70 = 125 bpm For a 85% Target Heart Rate: ((180 − 70) × 0.85) + 70 = 163 bpm This is really nice as it not only takes the individual into account with the resting heart rate but also individualizes the day with it as well. Still not as accurate as a VO2 max but it is about the best an individual can do.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 01:00 PM) This is more or less the approach in the Day 3 under the new CBA. If you have enough saved from the first 2 days, you'd open the day with a couple of high profile high school picks and hope that you can use your savings to pry them away from college commitment. If you do not have significant savings, you are basically picking guys who will sign for $100K or less and hope that they bloom late. So no, there aren't usually many BPA picks in day 3. I expect the Sox to start picking a few high schoolers starting in the mid 20 rounds. They would pick the higher profile high schoolers to generate goodwill for future drafts, and the lower profile kids (i.e. the token ACE picks) and hope that they will sign for whatever budget they have left until they hit the loss of pick penalty. Day 3, yes. It's always been for filler. But not rounds 1-10.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 10:55 AM) Actually, it is proven to burn the most calories, and may burn more fat (although a lesser percentage of total calories) than longer endurance type cardio, although that depends on how much, how long, etc. HIIT training is awesome, and if you can do it once every week or two, that is likely enough. During the remainder of your workout days, it is good to do lower intensity endurance-type training, perhaps 2-3 workouts per week. Definitely agree with everyone on strength training exercises and diet being a big part of the equation as well. The key to any workout plan is intervals and variety. If you plan on exercises for a long time the body will accommodate and the workouts will be less effective. don't get into a rut you will stagnate both physiologically and mentally. The stagnation happens most often with cardio. People get on the same machine or on the treadmill do the same amount of time at the same pace. This is a poor way to do it. Vary the pace and it will be a much more effective workout.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 12:21 PM) I don't think rounds 3-10 feature a BPA that is so obvious. Likely have similar tiers and this draft have veered toward the college profile in those tiers due to either feeling more confident in projecting them or signability. This is what they did more than anything. They went high floor instead of high ceiling.

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 12:22 PM) I never said that. They are selecting more advanced players that require less projection. That makes sense. your quote about drafting players specifically for the 10-20 range instead of the 1-5 range range had me confused.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 12:13 PM) This dude is pretty old. The proper term is "advanced and mature."

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 12:10 PM) I think this is dead on. This wasn't a draft where the club was looking to bolster its 1-5 prospect rankings. This draft looks like one that will be used to provide actual depth in the 10-15, 15-20 area going forward. Hahn has talked about this being priority. Rebuilding means you're going to get your fair share of very high picks in the future which will allow you to restock the top of the farm system. The goal of this draft seems to be to ensure that the club is developing real depth in the lower rungs. This can't be right. You're saying they are purposely not drafting the best players available, that could be ranked high, just to have depth?

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 12:04 PM) I think that they're securing the foundation of the system and adding some much needed depth with college guys. So that when they draft that raw prep player, it won't be such a blow if they don't work out. Does that make sense? It looks like they are trying to recreate the Moneyball A's. They are confident in their ability to develop pitchers, so they are creating a team of power hitting, OBP players with no positions to generate runs with no defense. I guess this supplements the athletic players like Moncada and Robert

QUOTE (BamaDoc @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 11:40 AM) Surprised by the lack of high schoolers overall. Thought they had stated a desire to take many. Smokescreen? I think the comment from Hahn about "take fewer swing and miss" guys implies they wanted more advanced type bats. thus less HS and more college bats.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 11:48 AM) Gyorko is a very solid player, I would not be disappointed if Burger turned out like him at all. He's not necessarily a "star", but he's very solid. We need more players like that. You really can't be disappointed in any draft pick making a contribution to an MLB roster. You're elated when they become a star but just making a solid contribution is a win.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 04:25 AM) https://finance.yahoo.com/news/inside-ubers...-194232221.html I should have added male privilege to the thread title, just to be clear/er. Yes you should. Teaching at a primarily minority institution, I am constantly reminded as a Caucasian, male, I am the cause of the problems with the world.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 09:32 PM) Add Leury Garcia to the list. Hopefully being around Hanson, Yolmer and Saladino will rub off...obviously not all of those players can fit on the roster, though. And of course you'd rather have all your future starters (Anderson/Moncada/Burger or Davidson) with the "plus" defensive skills. Avisail Garcia, etc. I guess the back-up plan for Anderson is moving him to CF with Leury at SS. C Collins 3B Burger SS Anderson/Leury 2B Moncada 1B Davidson/Delmonico/Sheets LF Luis Robert CF Tim Anderson RF Avi Garcia DH (rotating) Abreu for next two years That has the looks of an interesting offense. Plus top 5 pick next year, probably another college hitter. And a plethora of starting pitching depth in the minors to trade from to meet needs. You do realize that you have 3 players who don't have US professional plate appearances and 2 others that have no MLB plate appearances on this list. Not all of them will be good MLB players.

QUOTE (turnin' two @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 08:37 PM) Is it? 4 years of an Olympic sport in basic anonymity , which you have no opportunity to play beyond college, vs, approximately $160,000 and the chance to play baseball for a long time and be a multi-mega-millionaire. It may not be that tough to pass up, unless he really, really loved water polo. It is if his heart is in water polo. That is like getting a track scholarship to Oregon. It's the pinnacle of the sport. If you're just looking at money then baseball it is. Usually anyone offered a spot at Long Beach is serious about water polo though.

QUOTE (heirdog @ Jun 13, 2017 -> 06:02 PM) http://www.theolympian.com/sports/high-sch...e155989344.html Seems like Abbott is going to sign... I'm shocked. I guess his heart wasn't in water polo. That's a tough one to pass up.