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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 14, 2015 -> 03:48 PM) http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article....articleid=23644 Ptac will enjoy this one..... http://grantland.com/features/mlb-catcher-...ollisions-rule/ And one about home plate collisions Wow. You weren't kidding. That was excellent information. It really sums it up well. Before anyone posts about pitching again they should listen to that. Specifically about velocity. Mechanic can be a difficult topic unless you've really studied them. However, velocity should be easy to understand. Everyone should realize that any discussion of velocity at this time of the year is not only useless but detrimental. Pitchers should not be throwing at their max level now. This also exemplifies the problem with the current philosophy of pitching. Pitchers are now taught to go hard for six innings because it looks better in your analytics and you get more money as wins don't matter. Thus they throw harder more often instead of pacing themselves for longer outings. It's the same as hitters forgoing contact for power as that helps your OPS more. It really is a detriment to the pitcher's health. It's driven by the "new" way to look at pitching which in turn will make them more money. The pitchers are more effective for a shorter period of time but it also puts alot more stress on the arm. This is a must listen for every fan who wants to understand what is happening to pitching.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Mar 14, 2015 -> 01:49 AM) I'm not a doctor and don't play one on the Internet. With that said, I'd be surprised if we ever saw the Nate Jones of the past again. Any time a player has Tommy John, or tears an ACL, I write them off. Maybe I'm pessimistic, but I'd rather be surprised than disappointed. Basically, I expect nothing from Jones going forward. You are being unrealistically pessimistic. TJ and ACL surgeries continue to have a very high rate of returning to previous level. Anyone who has these I have a very high level of confidence that they will return. I have worked with 100's of them. More ACL than TJ but almost all of them return. However you are right with Jones but for the wrong reason, his back. If it wasn't for that injury he would have returned long ago. That problem came out of nowhere and is concerning. I don't know the specifics behind it but they did surgery almost as soon as it appeared. This is rare that a fairly long rehab wasn't attempted first. This is cause for concern.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 13, 2015 -> 02:43 PM) http://www.baseballamerica.com/majors/succ...urgery-decline/ Paulino and Gavin Floyd mentions....makes you feel Nate Jones shouldn't be counted on for anything in 2015. It has more to do with the pitcher than the surgery. They usually have the surgery because of mechanical issues. Some pitchers will not change the motion because either: they believe the problem is fixed and thus don't need to or they don't believe they will be successful without that "extra movement." More and more of these guys just think that once they have surgery they are fixed and don't want to listen. No surgery is a sure thing but if they listen it has a really good chance of being fine. Part of the problem with the article is they didn't really look at any correlation or causitive effects. It was only these players had it and look where they are. That is a poor way to say that the surgery isn't as effective. The surgical techniques have improve, so it's not the surgery that's less effective, it's the players and how well they rehab and change their habits.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 06:22 PM) Do you have any links to that bit about bone and ultrasound? My own experience from my injuries and research is that at worst it does nothing and it might hasten the healing process by speeding blood flow. Is this particular to avulsion fractures? HIIT I'm simply referring to doing a high rep light weigh upper body circuit. He should obviously be off his foot into the healing is complete. There is some research that shows ultrasound at very low doses can help fractures heal. There is a great deal of controversy as to why though. The typical ultrasound you will receive at a clinic is far too high intensity. This is the version that will inhibit fracture healing and the one that increases blood flow due to the cavitation and heating effect. Its for all fractures due to the disruption of the periosteum. It has been shown to be more effective on soft tissue such as muscle, tendon and ligaments. This is why I prefer not to use it as it is controversial at best so the time for treatment is better used elsewhere. Just look up articles on line there are many of them out there Because its been used for years with varied results. The HIIT usually refers to the high intensity interval training. Which is why I said I wouldn't do it. The high rep, light weight for the upper extremity would be fine but the trunk and hips really need to be addressed as he will be losing lower extremity endurance while waiting for it to heal.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 04:56 PM) yeah that was the stupid name of it. i went to google and found the rest. but you are spot on. my question is and hockey players thru their org uses it for deep injury and bone bruising or something like that. i know they, det red wings, claimed it brought yazerman back someting like a month ahead of time. he was our something like 3 weeks doing therapy like 4x a week. now here is the disclaimer. the numbers may be off to way off. i just can't remember. this was late 80's. the other part is why don't baseball use it for like sale's injury. No one else except hockey really uses it because there really isn't much research behind it and it's really expensive. Not just the purchase but the up keep. It wouldn't really be applicable in sale's case anyway as it's usually used for soft tissue injuries not really for bone healing. i think it's more hockey due to the international aspect of the sport. Many treatments are used outside of the US that aren't approved or really researched. These international players and coaches get used to it and the teams follow what they want. Hockey is the most international of the "big 4" sports in the US.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 04:22 PM) ptatc, what is your opinion of the oxygen tank recovery. i know it was big in hockey esp when Bowman was coach/gm of det. det used it for yazerman to get him back faster for their run to the stanley cup. i was wondering what ever happen to it. Hyperbaric therapy does have some research behind it. It is really popular in hockey for some reason. There is one at the United Center and the blackhawks use it. The theory is that the increased oxygen levels as well as the increased pressure helps to increase the nutrient levels going to the injured areas. This is somewhat supported but not great. Where it is really gaining support is in recovery from concussions and decreasing the lasting effects from the concussions. There are currently two sites in the Chicago area that I am aware of that are doing this type of research. There has been a few small studies but the early results are very promising from what people are saying.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 04:02 PM) As I'm sure you know there's only so much you can do to speed the healing process of ligament and bone. I'm sure he's getting ultrasound 2 or even three times a day but as you said hopefully he is taking his pool work and lifting seriously. If he does HIIT style circuits he can maintain and even improve his conditioning while waiting to get back throwing. He had better not be getting ultrasound over a healing bone. The sound waves will irritate the periosteum and really hurt. That is pretty much the worst thing for healing bone. Ligaments and tendon you can do it butI'm not really in favor of it, personally. He really can't do any lower extremity lifting due to the avulsion healing. You can speed up healing in the frame of giving the area the best environment to heal. You can't speed it up physiologically, however you can make sure that the nutrients are getting there as efficiently as possible. The best way is to make sure the blood is flowing to the area, hence the cardio work. Not really a fan of the HIIT workouts for him either. The high intensity would not be good for the healing bone and ligament for the lower extremity and this early in the Spring is more for building up as opposed to driving up the intensity. Shoulder, elbow and hip stability type exercises are the key right now as this is really where most of the stress from pitching goes.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 03:16 PM) Key from that news is that he's scheduled to resume baseball activities on March 21st. That would give him 23 days to get ready for the April 12th start. I think he can do it but the key will be to actually meet that timetable for starting to throw again. I don't think he's going to meet it and he'll probably make his first start the 17th. That's just my opinion we'll see how it goes. That is reasonable. Hopefully, he is on the bike and in the water to keep his lower extremities in shape so he doesn't lose the endurance there. That is the key to rehab at this point.

QUOTE (shipps @ Feb 25, 2015 -> 06:16 PM) ptac what are your thoughts on the third DRose injury? I apologize if you commented already in the Drose thread but I dont remember seeing one from you. Sorry, I did not get to this earlier. Been a crazy semester. Since the surgeons are nor repairing it, his injury is on a different spot so it is not easily repaired. This should rehab much faster. Once the tear is removed, he will just need to get the edema down and get full strength and he will be good to go. That being said his comments yesterday lead one to believe that he has little confidence in the knee. The rehab is normally 4 weeks, 6 on the outside. Now that there has been two surgeries on the same knee, one being a repair and the other a excision, it's going to feel different. The knee will never be the same. So you knows when he will determine it "feels" ready to go.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 12:36 PM) After his TJ he now has had 2 elbow fractures. Makes you wonder if he is done. Makes sense. The ligament is now stronger than the bone. When he puts the stress on the elbow the bone gives instead of the ligament. That is a very good replacement.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 2, 2015 -> 08:39 PM) It's not like Stanford's a crappy school, haha. One of my students here in China got turned down by them but accepted at MIT (also not wanting to get into the argument about the quality of a state school, versus, let's say Northwestern or Notre Dame). At any rate, like Ozzie, KW got a little bit lazy and started resting on his laurels. Call it cockiness, overconfidence, whatever you want. None of the schools you listed there are state or public universities. They are all private.

After reading more information, I think the writers are confusing tendons with ligaments. The 3 week timeline makes more sense with a ligament avulsion. If this is the case, there will be no long term problems.

QUOTE (staxx @ Feb 28, 2015 -> 02:33 PM) It really shouldn't. Since its on the lateral side of his foot, it's likely a tendon of an intrinsic muscle of the foot that pulled part of the bone off. Once it heals, it really shouldn't effect much of anything. He might have some initial problems with weight transfer through his plant foot. The intrinsic muscles really don't have tendons. By the mechanism of injury it was the fibularis brevis avulsed from the styloid of the 5th metatarsal. 3 weeks is pretty aggressive. I wouldn't think he could start throwing for 4 weeks. It must have been non-displaced.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 16, 2015 -> 08:58 AM) hey now elitist manufacturer scum, I work for a bank and we arent recognizing this fake bank holiday created by us People with kids need to have someone home when the kids are off school. Otherwise the long arm of the law gets upset.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Feb 5, 2015 -> 05:48 PM) A torn meniscus is pretty minor. He should be back by then. It depends if Andrews takes out the torn portion or repairs it. If he removes it, it is 4-6 weeks. If he repairs it, it could be 4-5 months.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 3, 2015 -> 03:17 PM) Many people care more about their dogs than they do their own kids. I tell everyone that I hope reincarnation is real and I come back as my wife's dog. They get the best treatment by far at our house.

QUOTE (Tex @ Feb 2, 2015 -> 07:35 PM) How many Americans travel overseas? How many visitors do we have flying into the US every day? Not sure of the answers there. The real question is....where did the virus come from then? Vaccinated Americans traveling overseas?

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 3, 2015 -> 09:39 AM) I was gonna root for the white sox, but then I saw they picked Soler over Garcia It's your choice but the Sox do compete with the Cubs for long term health and competitiveness of each franchise.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 2, 2015 -> 03:48 PM) That's fair but I think if you include Adam LaRoche as a "bench" player than I don't see how you give the edge to the cubs there. I also do not care really, as the Cubs are not in the White Sox division. But there's risk in the cubs projections that aren't acknowledged. You've seen the Sox position player flaws, but you assume Soler will have a smooth transition. But they do compete for marketing and fan dollars.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 2, 2015 -> 10:58 AM) I think it's kinda weird that the first person they hand the trophy to isn't the coach or the MVP QB but the team's owner. Compare that to the Stanley Cup, where Toews is the first person from the Blackhawks organization to hoist the cup. Of course they should. There wouldn't be a team without the owner. Once all of the players retire, the owner will still be there. It's HIS team.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 2, 2015 -> 09:26 AM) Seriously, this was a miserable commercial year. I really liked the 1st draft commercial.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 2, 2015 -> 01:19 PM) I'm not arguing that you have some legit info to the contrary, but the whole thing just seems so nonsensical to me. Why WOULD we agree to an extension in season, unless it was a significant overpay? The Sox aren't going to want to give him free market money unless he shows them success, and by the time he shows them success, he'll be a free agent anyway, which, at that point, is only upside for him. If he was going to sign an extension, he should/would have done it already. The reason you do that is to sell your injury/performance risk to the team. But he's already taken the risk and now he's set up to reap the benefits. I just don't get it. See my previous comment. I think they are going on his word that he will pick a comfortable situation. But the money needs to be close. I don't think a monetary discount is expected.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 2, 2015 -> 10:40 AM) He has a lot riding on his 2015 results. What makes one think he would take at least a slight discount if he extended is the "waiting to see what it's like". Unless he signs with a team he's played with, if his goal is the open market, one thing he isn't going to know is "how it's like" with the team he ultimately joins. I think the Sox are counting on the guy sticking to his words where he wants to be in a good organization and feel comfortable. If the Sox do this he will pick the Sox if the offers are close. I don't think a dicount is expected but the goodwill and the comfortable fit.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 2, 2015 -> 11:06 AM) I'm pretty sure undocumented status isn't contagious. However, if the disease was pretty much eradicated in the US it had to come from somewhere, not saying it had t be undocumented people but that is more likely.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 1, 2015 -> 12:30 AM) And they can afford to cross the border every year without getting caught? I guess. I never really got into the how they did it.