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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 7, 2013 -> 10:20 AM) Well obviously you give him a chance to prove that he can't start, but everything about the way he throws screams reliever eventually. The way he throws screams shoulder injury. Anterior capsule, subscapularis or labrum most likely. Not a fan of guys who don't have the good trunk flexion and follow through.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 03:27 PM) AFAIK both MLB and the Olympics use T/E ratio as basis for further testing. This is the only way to truly get an accurrate test. There are so many unknown substances out there that they do not know what to test for. However if you have the baseline you can test fort he effects.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 10:20 AM) Hey look. Jake Peavy, yet again, gets hurt trying to be a tough guy. Heaven forbid he ever once fess up that he doesn't feel right. He did not get hurt trying to be a tough guy. He got hurt and tried to pitch through it when they thought the rib was hypomobile. This is why they tried the manipulations. It's amazing the how injuries turn into the player's fault and trying to play with pain is all of their problem. You do realize that all pitchers have some type of pain or soreness by this time of the year. The key is trying to figure out which ones need to be shut down. A non-displaced rib fracture would be impossible to diagnose without the severe pain and imaging. The logical first step it to look at the hypomobility.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 24, 2013 -> 11:00 AM) Was it the "lap band" or gastric bypass? I'm not sure. I didn't ask details. I know he had the surgery lost a bunch of weight, gained some back and is now down again. He has really battled it and come out strong.

QUOTE (oldsox @ May 24, 2013 -> 06:23 AM) Herm has lost some weight the last few years. Wonder how much? He had a surgery to help lose weight. I'm not sure of the exact amount but he looks much better and is much healthier at 60 than he was in his 40's.

Good article. He carries the banner for our profession. The was an error in the article. When he chipped out Walker's teeth he was having a seizure not a stroke.

QUOTE (Tex @ May 22, 2013 -> 12:52 PM) As the face of the owners, he's not nearly as interesting as Bill, but overall I believe the club did well to have him as owner. DeBartolo was someone I really hoped would get the club, but this worked out fine. There aren't too many good owners, I would put JR in the upper 1/4. Too many gambling and tax problems. That's why he had to sell his shares of the racetracks and give control of the 49er's to his kids.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ May 10, 2013 -> 08:54 AM) If he doesn't want to be out there then I don't want him out there anyway. If he's just being a dickwad when welcome to the era of prima donna superstar athletes. It may not be this. I think I posted this elsewhere but as soon as he said he wasn't coming back until he felt "normal" I said he wouldn't be back this year. You can get medical clearance to play around 8-10 months. The knee is structurally sound. However, when you talk to professional athletes they say you don't feel "normal" until around 18 months post-op. Some speculate that it is due to nerve regeneration which takes about that much time. With his style of game and his comments about feeling "normal", it's not surprising he isn't playing.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 9, 2013 -> 04:03 PM) Sure he can -- he'll still be working out, throwing sides, and then of course, limited innings. That will not be as effective as actual games. Working out doesn't simulate throwing enough. Side sessions are fine between pitching but again it's not like games. He and the sox are better off having him in the minors until he is ready.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 8, 2013 -> 11:23 AM) There's probably some discussion of this in the 26 pages of this thread which i'm not going to read, but what does the rotation look like with Danks? Is he better than Axelrod or Santiago? Would Danks accept a role as the long man in the pen until his shoulder is back to full strength? You really can't build up strength unless it's on a regular increasing schedule. He's better off in the minors for that reason.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 7, 2013 -> 02:39 PM) Mods shouldn't the title now reflect this ? :5/6/13 RHP Gavin Floyd will undergo season-ending surgery tomorrow in New York City to repair the ulnar collateral ligament & a torn flexor muscle in his elbow. Expected recovery time for Floyd, 30, is approximately 14-19 months. moved to 60 day DL I hadn't seen that he had a tear in the flexor tendon as well. That will extend the recovery time a bit.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 7, 2013 -> 03:40 PM) Had this argument here this offseason, but I'll believe a pitcher will return to form after any shoulder surgery only after I see it. Many do. However, it's usually only the "cleanup" type surgeries. Danks was more involved than that but I still see no reason as to why he wouldn't.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 4, 2013 -> 07:17 AM) It's definitely OK for a cop to yell back at a person in certain situations, and not just where violence is implied. There are a million different personalities in the world. Believe it or not, some people NEED to be yelled at to reach them. Of course you want to keep it low as often as possible, but that's not always an option. It's a little more complex than how you originally put it, is all I'm getting at. This I agree with. I didn't mean that they aren't allowed to. It is called for at times. My point was in comparison to the umpire scenario. Yelling back at someone because they are yelling is not the first option to keeping the situation controlled. The umpires purpose as with police is first to defuse the situation as much as possible. It doesn't always work with the police scenario then the situation changes.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 3, 2013 -> 09:51 PM) Multiple. And you must not have read close enough. If I read it wrong then I apologize. I read that's it's ok for a police officer to yell back at someone yelling at them. If they are physically threatened then it's not only ok but justified. However, it was all being compared to an ump yelling at a player not anyone threatening physical violence.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 3, 2013 -> 11:13 AM) I'm pretty sure Milkman is a cop, so he probably knows If he is I would like to know what academy he went to. I've treated many police at all levels (local, city and state). They are always taught to defuse a situation. If physical violence is involved of course they need to act but they shouldn't instigate it.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 3, 2013 -> 03:37 PM) Like we said, it's a 12-18 month rehab. Most guys are throwing at around 12 months and can compete in games and are fully back by 18 months. This isn't Derrick Rose we're talking about. At worst he ought to be pitching in minor league games early next season. Yep, Throwing begins around 9 months.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2013 -> 07:17 PM) Wrong. He is Correct.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2013 -> 07:19 PM) There are most definitely times to raise voices/yell. And you certainly can't tase someone for yelling. You only tase when it escalates to possible violence. This occurs when both sides raise the level and physical threats appear.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ May 1, 2013 -> 11:37 PM) It's not a good analogy. Teaching is not the same as umpiring, or even policing. Umpires and cops aren't trying to teach anybody, it's only about enforcing rules and keeping people in line. They are pure authority figures. Teachers have to get students to trust them and listen to them. Umpires and police offers don't need anyone's trust for anything. They are in charge and have ways to dole out serious punishment. Also, bulls*** that cops aren't supposed to yell. "Excuse me kind sir, you need to drop your weapon and lie on the ground. Please don't make me raise my voice." Crowd control? They don't yell? Now we're just making s*** up. Your example was yelling not a gun drawn. Obviously, the police needs to take action if there is already a physical threat. However, if it is just an angry yelling individual, police are taught to reamin calm and try to calm the other person. As soon as the cops yells back it escalates.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 3, 2013 -> 08:23 AM) I'll bet there's a 50/50 shot that he signs a minor league deal with the ChiSox in the offseason. He'll get a major league deal from someone if not the Sox.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 2, 2013 -> 02:21 PM) For some reason, a back spasm popping up in May seems unlikely to be caused by pitching too many innings during a season that ended 7 months prior. Not to say that it is the reason but it could be. Ideally, you use your legs and back extensively when pitching. If issues occur elsewhere (arm, shoulder, legs) you can compensate for it and it could show up in the back. Just as with any of the other areas, you would like the stress to be in the bigger muscles of the back and legs. This is most likely not the case however it is worth watching if a pattern develops. I always watch someone who significantly increased their pitching load over the previous year. Not the "Verducci Effect" of young pitchers only but everyone. It doesn't always happen but it's a cause to watch.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 2, 2013 -> 02:12 PM) Of all of the people that were pushed hard, Peavy was not one of them. Him and Sale both got lots of extra days off and skipped starts. They still pitched alot more innings than in the two previous years, as did Quintana.

QUOTE (Hawkfan @ May 2, 2013 -> 09:32 AM) Why does everyone have to be a great guy? Whatever great guy means. I would imagine that half the players in baseball are not great guys, but jerks by most standards. Who gives a s***? AJ was awesome and loved by most sox fans, and now that we get to bean him it's hilarious, like tripping your best friend in front of a girl he likes. I wish more people were like AJ and didn't care about hurting someone's feelings so much. I'm all for being nice, but people are too sensitive these days. If that makes me a "meathead" fan, I'll take that over half the nerds on this site that have never played a game in their life. There's a difference between not being a great guy and just being nasty to people for no reason. AJ was and is a fun player to watch and a good player. You would like to think in society most people would be respectful to others. Do you have to be, no. Is it entertaining if you're not, yes. I just comment when people try to say, "AJ wasn't that bad of a person." I liked having him on the team. He did contribute alot. He helped bring something I never thought was possible to Chicago, a White Sox World Series.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 2, 2013 -> 09:11 AM) Yes, but then there are quotes about guys who were concerned about playing with him saying he wasn't was his reputation made him out to be. I also read where he really mellowed when he became a father. Everything I read is that he eventually will get under your skin because he's pretty much non stop talking, trying to poke the lion. AJ loves pro wrestling, and has taken his role as the MLB villian and ran with it. All of this is true. I love the way he plays. He cannot be knocked for his play. He did mellow as he got older. However, while he wasn't outright nasty to people as he was when younger, he was a "surly" person who people still disliked, not HATED, as portrayed.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 2, 2013 -> 09:12 AM) Good point, but how quickly can we collect it? I'm guessing we won't see that money until the season is over. If he is on the DL he gets worker's compensation pay which usually comes from the insurance company. It varies by insurance company on how quickly the reimburse.