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QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 01:10 PM) If you're not gay then it simply doesn't concern you, so I don't see why it is such big deal. I think religion is the biggest thing, but no one has to abide by someone else's beliefs. I don't think homosexuality is right but I fully support gay marriage. Let the people be happy for Chrissakes. There's just no logical reason not to. I really don't care one way or another however it does concern everyone. The reason it does is economics. The reason many people want the legal marriage is for spouse insurance benefits and everything that goes with it. Anybody canlive with someone they love, but the legal marriage has more to do with recognition on a legal basis and the benefits thatgo with it. All of this spreads the insurance dollar thin especially health care with AIDS, which is higher in male-male couples.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 1, 2009 -> 09:57 PM) In my experience, decline presses have never been prooven to do much of anything. Incline presses only work the pec-minors (top half of the pectoralis), as their major target area, which he's not talking about. Not to dispute what you say, as you got the medial/lateral portion correct, but if I understood him correctly, what he's trying to do cannot be done because his muscles do not connect in that location in the proper fashion to give the look he's looking for. If I could edit this down to text pictures, he has something like this: |_/\_| and he's looking for |_|_| -- correct me if I'm wrong here, but that's what I think he's looking to do. If I'm right, he has the |_/\_| shape simply because of how his pectorals are connected to the center of his breastplate, and there isn't anything he can do about that. The incline will target the "lower" pectoralis more than the flys. The decline will as well but not as much as the incline. The best exercise for the "lower" pecs that he is talking about is a variation of the pulley exercise you discussed. You pull the cable from above and pull it down in front of you and toward the mid-line. The only downfall is that it can be rough on the shoulders. The "lower" or sternal part of the pectoralis major originates at the lower sternum and the lower ribs. It merges with the clavicular portion near the insertion which is on the humerus. So it has a line of pull which goes up and out from the lower sternum. This is why you need an exercise which goes either up or down and out in front of the body.

QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Apr 1, 2009 -> 11:16 AM) I have a question about shaping. How can I get more even, square pecs ? My pecs are pretty even, except for a gap at the bottom, near my sternum. I already use the a pec squeeze machine and dumbell flyes which are supposed to build the inner chest, right? your pectoralis major muscle is divided into two sections: a sternal component and a clavicular portion. The exercises you are doing work the clavicular portion as it goes straight side to side (medial to lateral). To get to the lower portion or the sternal posrtion you need to lift weight up out in front of you. This is usually done with incline or decline bench presses.

This board is like a reality show. I read it to make my wife's family look normal.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 10:46 AM) Wasnt Glavine the hockey player? Yes, we was drafted for the NHL.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 07:44 AM) I was truly trying to hold back, but you made me. The heaviest cy young winner in history... by a decent margain too.. Only the second fastest in major league baseball history to record 100 saves (187 games) to kaz sasaki (160 games). Lamar Hoyt was pretty big when he won the Cy Young for the Sox.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 12:05 PM) Maybe I'm ignorant on this subject, but, how would a blood test tell you if you have anxiety disorder? Isn't that a mental illness? there are some that are chemical or hormonal. Not my area of expertise but i've seen it in patients.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 29, 2009 -> 08:36 AM) I guess he won't be doing RAGBRAI this year. We are!! It's been 25 years since I've done it. I'm sure they've missed me.

87-75 2nd in the division

QUOTE (SAVVY18 @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 04:52 PM) On that last play, Marquez did something to his lower body and they are taking him out. you follow hockey far too much.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 13, 2009 -> 04:21 PM) It is an anemic line-up. Ekstrom is garbage/horrible. The only hitters who looked good b4 that were Konerko and Fields against Chris Young. OK just checking

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 13, 2009 -> 04:09 PM) That Baines trade was at the end of his career...or towards the end. The Baines for Sosa/Fletcher/Alvarez move was in 1988 or 1989 I think. Josh Fields continues to come through with another hit...station-to-station baseball at its best/worst. Nobody has advanced once in this inning more than one base on any of the plays. For an outfielder (on Anderson) to be hitting .192 "that's not so good." Anderson K's for the FIRST White Sox strikeout of the ballgame. Anderson is really killing his chances. Lillibridge making a case to play in CF as part of a platoon instead of Anderson. It was 1989 and don't forget about the fantastic switch-hitting Wayne Tolleson being involved as well.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 13, 2009 -> 02:59 PM) Wise, CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .412 Nix, 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .714 Pierzynski, C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .444 Konerko, 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .280 Fields, 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .313 Anderson, B, RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .192 Lillibridge, SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269 Owens, LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200 Floyd, P 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 Wow, talk about your anemic offensive line-ups...this is one of the most anemic possible that Ozzie must have drawn out of a a hat. No Quentin, no Alexei, no Dye, Thome still out with the iffy back, no Viciedo, no Beckham. And pitchers batting. Do you want to change any of this?

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Feb 26, 2009 -> 02:18 PM) Cowley: Dayan Viciedo's first major-league at-bat? Ripped a hard single to left. Greg Walker has ruined him already. He pulls everything!!!! Why can't he learn to hit to the opposite field.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Feb 21, 2009 -> 09:18 AM) Then why play the games? If statistical analysis is so foolproof, it would seem that it is unnecessary to actually play the games. Unless there are factors that cannot be predicted by the stats. Hmmm Why do teams employ Scouts to go see a player? All they should need are the stats. Don't you know you don't need to watch games. All you have to do is look at the stats after the game and it will tell you all you need to know. After all there is no emotion, confidence or feelings involved in baseball. I listened to Dan Bernstein and that's all I need to know.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 18, 2009 -> 09:38 AM) is Ptak around to talk about how ridiculous this could be? I believe you're referring to me. I'm just basing my opinion from experience that he is coming back far sooner than I thought he would. This doesn't mean that it is reckless or unwarranted. I know and trust the medical staff from the team. I know they wouldn't have him doing what he was if it wasn't ready. I'm just surprised that he is this ready due to the factors I've stated before. 1. Age and size 2. the amount of force that achilles will absorb from landing on a graded pitching mound. 3. the stress from a major league routine. Again, don't get me wrong people who don't have these factors can be back anywhere from 3-6 months. I've just seen that in older professional athletes, they are usually much more conservative with the rehab. If the madiacal staff thinks he's ready, I have no doubt that he is.

QUOTE (GREEDY @ Feb 19, 2009 -> 03:55 PM) Not sure what steroids have to do with my speculation that Thome would have taken a few weeks off in '08 if it hadn't been for his option... but I'll bite Just because Jim is a tad on the round side, doesn't mean he didn't use PEDs. I don't like how certain big guys get a pass just because they aren't ripped. Nice guys take shortcuts too. I don't believe Jeter, I think EVERYONE used substances that are now illegal. And I think they are using stuff now that will be illegal in the future. I really don't want to turn this into a juice discussion but I have read articles by two different sports writers that have hall votes stating that they won't vote for McGwire specifically because he has admitted to using Andro.... which amazingly was available over the counter at f***ING WALMART during the years he stated he used it. Despite the constant talk about PEDs in the media I can't believe how ignorant most when it comes to the subject, from message board posters to people with hall of fame votes. Also, not sure what the shift has to do with my prediction, but again, you got me NO PLAYER that faces the shift and refuses to at least attempt at changing his approach to take advantage are not "pure class" in my book, at least from a baseball standpoint. I'll admit it appears I am wrong on this one, as none of the lefty sluggers that managers shift against appear to try and combat it. While I was a D1 athlete (I didn't play a real sport, I was trying to be the best at exercising) I wasn't a baseball player, so I would buy a decent argument that proves that "messing with your swing" is a big mistake; but I see guys try and go "the other way" all the time, or an announcer will say "there is a big gap in RF"... wouldn't that involve changing an approach? Does a bunt attempt mess with your swing? Hope that made sense... couldn't really convey it well. Players play to their strengths. with his swing if he tried to "go the other way he would just hit lazy fly balls to the outfield." I guess players like Ted Williams have no class as well.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Feb 19, 2009 -> 12:17 PM) No one and I mean NO ONE is slower than Bengie Molina and it isn't particularly close. the slowest person I've ever seen in MLB was a White sox catcher named Marc "Booter" Hill. I saw him get thrown out at first on a hit to the center fielder up the middle. He was "running" the whole time. It wasn't like he stopped because he thought the SS or 2B was going to get to the ball. I didn't think it was possible.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Feb 18, 2009 -> 01:50 PM) i saw how pudge might have no choice but to sign a minor league deal with the marlins. so theres no possibilty of him coming here? AJ would not tolerate splitting time with another catcher. The Sox risk pissing him off if hedoes catch around 120 games. That situation would not benefit the Sox. Rodriguez would not come here to play around 40 games as a back up.

QUOTE (thedoctor @ Feb 14, 2009 -> 10:06 AM) for the long-term future of the organization i think kw took the appropriate course of action this offseason. at the end of the 2007 season things really looked dire. we had no young talent on the major-league roster, nothing that could be considered impressive talent in the minors, and a roster full of older guys with ungainly contracts. today, that outlook looks decidedly different, to get there and win a division while doing it is an accomplishment that i don't think can be undersold. that is impressive. now, do i think we are legit world series contenders on paper right now? no. we have holes, particularly at those last two spots in the rotation. that worries me more than anything. at the same time, can we be counted out? look around the division. the indians are once again grabbing darling status but as of now the only sure things in their rotation are carmona, lee, and carl freaking pavano. I agree. There is nothing wrong with cutting back this year, seeing what the young players can do and kow what you have for next year. There is nothing wrong with putting in young kids and taking lumps occasionally as long as the young players are talented. Just think back to the Schuler years and how much better or at least promising the Sox have been since 2000. I think I do like KW more than some on this board but only because I remember the Himes, Harrleson, and Schuler eras and cringe.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 7, 2009 -> 06:10 PM) How exactly do we know when either of them started juicing? I'll guarantee you the stuff was available if they wanted it while they were still in high school, especially ARod. Maybe he's a man among boys at 18 because his body is overloading with artificial testosterone. Sorry, Man among men was meant by performance (defense and offense) not physical stature. He was a skinny kid the whole time. There was no way he was on them at that time. Looks like he was later though. I tend to agree with the previous poster when you look at how he changed later. But with early 20's players who should be growing and filling out it's not always easy to tell. i know the they are available in high school and unfortunately it is all too prevalent. But again the physical changes tend to be fairly obvious. It's not fool proof by any means but it's there.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 7, 2009 -> 03:11 PM) The thing is, he was such a stud since he was young (still arguably the best high school player ever seen) that you wouldn't think he would need an edge to be as great as he already was. That's what I think he was stupid in that regard. Well... there's still Frank and Griffey who, so far, are clean and still the best players in our era. But we should just try and move forward on this. Baseball is a game of edges, and eventually/most of the time, folks take them. Ritalin, scuffed balls, vaseline, red juice, cutting the bases, spitting on the ball, watering the basepaths, drying out the field with gasoline, pine tar, telescopes in CF, blinking lights, foot tappers in the 3rd base box, infield decks, corked bats, holding the runners belt, stealing signs from the dugout, tilted baselines... HGH, PEDs, steroids. He was the best player in the minors in Low A when I saw him play for appleton. A man amoung men at 18. Bonds is the same thing. A great player before the abuse began. It a shame these guys aren't satisfied with being one of the best players of all time. They needed to go out and be the best HR hitters of all time. But in reality that's where the money is because that's what most fans seem to want. It's still a shame though. Hopefully, he'll get what he deserves and it helps to clean up the game. If the past couple of season are any indication, it is heaed in the right direction.

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This is surpising to me only from that fact that if someone is taking them someone in the locker rooms starts to talk and there is some rumors. I personally did not hear any od the A-Rod ones. He must have been very discrete about it. As far as Puljols goes, there has been talk about him since he was drafted ala Mike Piazza. Again I'm not saying he is for sure but you hear the talk in the locker rooms.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 5, 2009 -> 04:42 AM) He's also one of the few GM's who openly says he really doesn't care what the fans think about his moves/trades and whether they understand them or not...that he doesn't have to answer to bloggers, fanboys, SABR club stat geeks or anyone else but JR. Of course, it's a lot easier to do that with a WS championship so recently in the rearview window. I find it pretty hilarious that he now always prefaces his comments with something like "I really don't have time to answer every blog or Internet rumor" but he still inevitably will make a comment when situations reach "critical mass" in terms of speculation (like the Dye/Bailey rumors week). That's his job. He is supposed to put together a team that HE thinks will win as many games as possible with the resources he is given. The fans and everyone else do not have the information about resources, scouting reports, injury info etc. for the most part. He should ignore everything fans and bloggers say because in the end it's his job on the line. The rest of us just don't have lives and speculate on things we don't have all the info about, have no control over and whose employment do not depend on it.