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QUOTE (scs787 @ May 28, 2014 -> 02:18 PM) So who are the potential suitors for Lexi? Looking through some of the depth charts of contending teams it looks like most of them have a guy there already. Sure this Lexi would be an upgrade over a lot of them but not big enough to give up a "Huge" package for him I'd say. http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...0&sort=20,d Yankees, Mariners and Brewers for starters.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2014 -> 02:11 PM) If Cameron is accurate and teams won't give up much for him, Hahn's decision whether to trade him or keep him is very easy. I don't think Cameron knows the market from his ass. Quite a few teams are desperate for middle infield help. That doesn't necessarily mean a team will pay what the Sox are asking for him, but it certainly doesn't hurt.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 28, 2014 -> 01:03 PM) My price tag for Alexei starts with a legitimate #1/#2 starting pitching prospect in the top half of the minors and then adds a few more pieces from there based on the farms system we are raping and pillaging. Yep, looking for an "A-" level pitching prospect (probably that orgs best prospect) and then another couple top 10ish guys from that org as well. Bowl Hahn over, maybe he'll pull the trigger. Otherwise, keep him another year and see where you are at in July '15.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2014 -> 12:18 PM) It seems peculiar to me that the guy who runs Fangraphs which claims Alexei's performance last year was worth $15.6 million and his performance this season has already been worth $9.8 million, and whose worst performance of his career was worth $8.5 million, doesn't think he has the correct skills to bring back anything major when he is owed $10 million next year with a $10 million option with a $1 million buyout for 2016. Seems he isn't buying what his site is selling. Cameron doesn't "run" fangraphs anymore than Keith Law "runs" ESPN. In general, Cameron is an annoying know it all that likes to make snap judgements for eyeballs/readers instead of using nuance. As for the dollar amounts those are just hard calculations using the cost of a win on the FA market it's a pretty crude measure because the inputs (like defensive WAR) have pretty big error bars. That said, Ramirez is easily worth every penny of his contract even if he falls off to a 270/300/400 hitter as there just aren't many good SS in MLB right now. If some team is offering you a legit top 50 guy and another "B" prospect for Ramirez you gotta look hard at that IMO. It's not that they are shopping him around, just listening to offers -- if a good one comes it might make sense to jump on it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 28, 2014 -> 12:21 PM) If he hadn't have been coming off of the injury, maybe they move him up a day. There is no good reason to right now. Good move by Ventura. Yea this could be a blessing in disguise. They managed to hold on for the win and they slowly get to ramp Sale back up. I just hope Ventura doesn't see this as a reason to let him go over 110 or so next outing. Just keep the kid gloves on him no reason to burn him out this year, we got bigger fish to fry down the road.

Game was delayed (some would say wrongly) over 40 minutes to start and then another 1:58 minutes after the first three innings. Finished up around 1am local time. Sale for 40 pitches 3IP 0H 0R 4K 1BB was owning but got screwed by mother nature. With the 4 k's and 1 walk he actually lowered his k to walk ratio, now that's when you know you're owning fools. Gillaspie with the clutch RBI in the rain now doing his best Ty Cobb at 353/399/468 including another good AB verse a lefty. Seriously Rick Hahn crack a beer on this one. Conor is also playing a fine 3B, he has a nice quick pivot and fairly soft hands. Beckham! Good problem to have either he plays himself on or off the team, much like Dunn continues to rebound, which yea, we got that going for us. Had a great throw to complete the DP in the 8th Bullpen was excellent on the whole. Carroll continues his smoke and mirror show but great for him I think he only needs another week or two to get his pension. For a guy on the absolute fringe of the roster he's done a good job, he could have imploded tonight but bore down. Konerko with 3 pathetic ground balls, was continually behind then showed a real damn sign of life just to be robbed by bourjos or whatever his name is. Great play by Cleveland to save a critical 2 runs. Sox are now 27-27, 15-12 at home and ... are tied with a couple other teams for 5th best in the AL at .500. Run differential isn't where you want it, mostly do to run prevention, but hey... we are now nearly 1/3 of the way through the season and despite all that has gone injury wise this Sox team is showing real signs of life.

now that was a helluva turn. Great strong throw from Gordon.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ May 27, 2014 -> 11:52 PM) Easy there fella. They don't even have anyone in scoring position yet. anyone with a functioning eye could see after the first two batters how this one was gonna go. He's getting lit up.

man this sucks. be lucky to be tied after this half inning.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 27, 2014 -> 11:49 PM) No-no still alive lol, that sounded like a HR and looked like one for 395 feet.

so what, how long until they decide to just can Sale? 30 min? an hour?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 27, 2014 -> 09:48 PM) I looked at the radar. I think even if this game gets delayed, they will finish it sometime tonight. I think they are gonna try and get through 5 and call it. Just need 6 quick out from Sale.

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ May 27, 2014 -> 09:42 PM) Minutecast for the Cell Looks like there is going to be rain (and intense rain) for the next 90 mins or so. Not sure what they're thinking. Pretty sure they are thinking "let's get through 5 innings" and go home.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 27, 2014 -> 09:42 PM) Conor Gillaspie is the greatest hitter of all time The Kid Who Only Hit Line Drives, inspired by a true story, coming to a bookstore near you!

don't like eaton on there on the wet field.

masterson has ridiculous movement on his pitches

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 27, 2014 -> 08:25 PM) The average length of games has increased 29 minutes the last 10 years. They are now 3:08 on average. If they don't do something about it, it will hurt the game. He we agree on something. It's bad and something needs to be done.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 27, 2014 -> 08:20 PM) PK rolling wrist weak groundout, multiple games and PK not going together very well. Honestly I'd rather play Sierra in RF and DH Viciedo. That improves the defense and the offense. Not sure why Kong continues to start EVER against RHP.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 27, 2014 -> 08:11 PM) Wanna hear the scary thing about Chris Sale? His FIP says that he's been unlucky to have a 1.83 ERA to be fair his xFIP is 2.48, cold weather has prolly kept some fly balls in the park against him.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 27, 2014 -> 08:14 PM) Eaton is a damn good CF even with a bad hamstring He's totally cromulent, which we haven't seen in awhile. Imagine how could Mike Cameron would look to our starved eyes.

I don't like how Dunn let's the ball all the way into his body on the routine grounders, one time he's going to freaking drop one playing it like that. I guess whatever works for the big fella.

QUOTE (beautox @ May 27, 2014 -> 08:09 PM) Robin "because f*** you thats why; I didn't even want to be the manger" I love Robin's thinking it's like "I'll do the opposite of what the numbers say!" Other times it's a strict adherence to a Lefty verse Righty matchup. Either go with your gut or not! Pick one dude!

thank god Eaton is in the lineup.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 27, 2014 -> 09:23 AM) Today, I'm still more confident that De Aza will hit than Danks when they're at the plate. When Jordan Danks produces back to back 2 WAR seasons in MLB get back to me. There is a reason they are giving De Aza a long rope -- he's been pretty damn good as a Sox. Yea he's sucking ass this year but it's not like they have some stud in AAA he's blocking.

QUOTE (scs787 @ May 27, 2014 -> 12:07 PM) Using ERA to appeal to the back of the baseball card guys, and FIP to appeal to the saber guys.....(I know neither are the end all measuring stick but you get the point). Addison Reed-4.18 ERA/4.62 FIP Daniel Webb- 2.39/4.19 Jake Petricka- 1.57/4.06 Zach Putnam- 1.64/3.14 Then there's Lindstrom who sabermetrically is only slightly worse than Reed @ 3.32/4.68. Saying Reed would be the 4th or 5th best reliever is not that crazy to say. Reed's had a weird start to the year and if we hadn't all seen him pitch the last few years it would be hard to explain. He has a 4.62 FIP, as you mentioned, but his xFIP (with a league average HR/FB%) is only 3.14. Basically xFIP is sayin ghe's been extremely unlucky on HRs -- however, we've seen Reed pitch and we know this version of him. It's the version that has a 96MPH heater and not much else. When that version comes on teams sit on the fastball and when he grooves one (he's not exactly Greg Maddux with his command) it gets hit hard. Now, he also has a K/BB ratio over 3/1 and is striking out over a batter an inning, so his stuff is still there. But his season is pretty much exactly why Chicago traded him -- he's a good reliever but far, far, far from a "dominant closer". He was about to get way overpaid for being "a closer" and the time was ripe to trade him. Now, Davidson might not pan out, but getting a top 100 prospect that has a 50/50 chance to develop into a solid everday 3B is way more valuable than a 1-2 WAR reliever, ESPECIALLY on a team that has Don Cooper as the pitching coach. The Sox turn turds into gold quite often with Cooper, but they don't have much success with infield prospects. Getting a guy that was near MLB ready was a no brainer for Reed. tl:dr Reed is only a good reliever, not elite, Sox produce those guys on the reg and he was about to get way overpaid, getting Davidson was a fine return, even if it doesn't pan out the thought process was good.