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If they get blown out tonight I'll abdicate the game thread to somebody else. My titles have been a self fulfilling prophecy going on two nights in a row. My reverse jinx is DOA.

save the tread imo. tank year. next year he can run.

They changed it for when you're logged in, as I am at work usually. This is the new UI, there is no "copy link to tweet" option anymore I have to use the URL in my browser. If anybody knows a workaround without installing a twitter extension lemme know, please!

This lineup is absolute trash but you knew it would be. I love how hard it is to simply copy a link on Twitter now. Do they own stock in Tweetdeck I'm at the end of my rope with the web UI.

seems a league wide reaction to "it's a shit market to sell in".

Yes they should. Sox need to be doing due diligence on every SP on the market this summer. It's a buyer's market. @mqr I don't know if Noah is good enough to make that deal but man I'd consider it. I'd probably want it to come with an extension for Noah so we have cost certainty.

The last time I saw this was little league, where it's fairly common. It's beyond embarrassing that MLB's own umps didn't know the rule.

You can think about WAR when Jose fails to properly get off the bag with a runner on 1st and a double play ball turns into runs for the opposition as it did the other night in Tampa. I personally cannot wait to have Vaughn at 1st so we don't have to play with a statue at 1st anymore. @mqr lol.

I think we can do better than a guy projected as a 1 WAR starter at 1B/DH, how about you? Or do you continue to value sentimental bullshit over wins for the team you ostensibly root for?

I think he's a really good 3 in a loaded, playoff expectations rotation. On most teams he'd be a really good 2 or borderline ace. I can see a Quintana esque run for him producing about 20 WAR over the next 5 years. That would probably rank him somewhere around 20-25 for SP so not quite an ace (probably reserve that for only 7-10 guys in all of MLB) but certainly one of teh best pitchers in baseball.

The strike wiped out a probable Sox pennant and the greatest season of Frank's career. It was devastating for the White Sox. Frank was slashing an absurd .353.487.729 for a 1217 OPS and a OPS+ of 212. He was over twice as good as the average hitter that year and his greedy owner, among other things, wiped out 1/3 of his season. I've long let go of any anger regarding the strike but just now rehashing it I got a bit angry.

One wing of Konerko's house in Scottsdale should do it.

Christ it's morning and we're still having this e-peen contest? Has there been any on-topic news this morning about the shakeup?

Soxtalk after dark.

leave it to you to bring the conversation on topic. the critical line there is it's likely to an "internal promotion". This is very on brand, the White Sox Way.

thanks, physio. what is it about baseball boards and pedantry? never mind. don't answer that.

I think @ptatc and other trainers would readily tell you that just in the last 20 years there's been a revolution in the science of performance -- in more ways than one. This has naturally led to increased velocity. Just read the opening chapter of The MVP Machine it's all just physics. Faster you rotate your arm, faster that ball is coming out. And with video analysis, force measuring sensors, portability of technology and scalability (not to even mention diet and advanced physical training) -- it's all come together to help athletes run faster, jump higher and throw baseballs harder than ever on human earth.

you're a great poster there are many here not even worth arguing with so yea.

lol the year they supposedly "rigged" the velocity increase via measurement change in '17 it actually went down. you can't make this shit up.

and here you are arguing with the rest of us here on Soxtalk on a Wednesday night. christ dude I know you have some issues with stepping outside your own head but your posts tonight have been condescending, rude, and obstinate at times.

If you had that list in OOTP you'd have a 20/35 brown bar next to every guy and one time out of thousand one of them actually pans out into something more than a decent regular. If the Sox get one useful player out of that group I'd be happy. For every optimistic take that says Blake will grow into his frame and start to hit for power 8/10 guys like him never do find the power and remain AAAA talents or in his case probably a 4th OF.

No kidding! Every single baseball fan that wants to understand the statistical revoltuion in baseball needs to read Tom Tango's work. It, more than money ball (not even close) explains the beauty of the game to the math inclined. I don't even really like math I got a C- in calc and dropped it but baseball only has so many outcomes, broken up into nice little discrete chunks, and the players replicate the dice rolls every single night for us to put into our databases and run the regressions on. This stuff, wOBA, the linear weights of events that led to its creation, this shit now almost 30 years old and many were working on more primitive (but still better than OPS) versions long before that. In many ways fans that are just learning about sabermetrics now (with fWAR for example) are trying to learn Calculus when they can't do factoring or order of operation. It ain't going to work.

I posted last night about many posters' inability to assess a spectrum of future outcomes and then properly group and weight them. Some people refer to it as "smearing" outcomes. I think you have a blind spot here you also argue it with your "hit is vastly more valuable than a walk" trope. Tom Tango already did all the math on this shit he has the run values let me see if I can find his link. Here you go. Data is a bit dated but it's still relevant. Look at the data on runs scored with 1 out runner on 1st. A walk is almost identical to a hit. You can read the rest of the table yourself I'm sure. Mostly you'll find the same. In many cases, some surprising, a walk is equivalent to a hit for scoring runs.

intuitively that makes perfect sense as a soft looping line drive looks "same in the box score" as a rocket. This might be in part some of the origins of the "level swing back up the middle" theory of hitting that prevailed for so long until the launch angle revolution and so much batted ball data for MLB scouted players.

I mean I only took undergrad level stats but I can tell you that expecting to see such a strong correlation with only one variable in BABIP is wrong. Most of the calculator are using 5-7 variables including batted ball data like pull rate and hard hit %.