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QUOTE (zenryan @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 09:39 PM) police also call for non violent protests and we see how well the citizens of that area listen. And people put their hands up in surrender and...well.

QUOTE (zenryan @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 09:25 PM) yeah because there is no way the problem makers wouldve held off because it was day time... http://www.businessinsider.com/ferguson-po...wn-death-2014-8

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 06:09 PM) He is pain free but doesn't know if he will play....... For once...f*** it if you're not 100% sure then sit out.

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 06:57 PM) the objective of my interest and of course confusion is that Cuban Factor to make this team interesting esp when their TV deal come back up. let alone beside that winning a couple more of WS rings. The White Sox's TV deal does not come back up until 2019. It should not be a factor in any thinking in any way, shape, or form, outside of "put together as many winning seasons prior to 2019 as you can", but there's no reason why that's any different than what you want to do in a normal year. Win as often as you can.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 04:55 PM) Nothing is really dead at this point. The Winter meetings start in a week and a half. Things are going to be pretty quiet in general until then. The big upcoming deadline for the White Sox is what, Tuesday December 2, when they have to decide whether they're offering viciedo salary arbitration?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 05:33 PM) Didn't that video get debunked though? Like, the witness admitted later that she didn't actually see it, she just heard that? There was something about that video that didn't add up but I don't remember what it was. There was one video of a witness like that which was debunked, but a couple weeks ago CNN actually got (and I posted in here) video reportedly taken right after the shooting, not during (i.e. they started filming when they heard the gunshots) and there were people running at the cop in the video yelling "He had his f***ing hands up". This wasn't a witness saying she didn't see it, that's the reaction of people in real time. People who saw the shooting on the spot were running in yelling that. Whatever happened beforehand, whatever the witnesses say, video taken seconds after the shooting includes those phrases.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 04:48 PM) Uh, disagree completely. That struggle - what happened, how it happened, etc. - sets the stage for how Wilson can act afterwards. If he was attacked, if Brown went after the gun, if Wilson was injured, Brown could have been 10-15 feet away and just motioned in Wilson's direction and I'd be fine with Wilson shooting him. The threat of danger was real given what he just went through. Brown is a person who just fought with a cop and tried to get his gun. He's capable of anything. We've also got video of witnesses to the shooting immediately after it happened running to the scene yelling "he had his ****ing hands up".

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 01:39 PM) I don't think Ramirez is a top 5 shortstop in the game either, even if I think he is a really good and valuable shortstop. Probably top 10, but I wouldn't go beyond that. Either way, I think the Dodgers can find a way to save more money than that even, plus that also leaves them without one of their best offensive outfielders. They are also a franchise who is not struggling for money right now, for $67 million over 5 years isn't really that much for them. I don't think they'd do it. I checked a couple days ago, he's #4 in MLB in fWAR over the last 5 years and #5 over the last 2 years. He's a legit top 5 shortstop in baseball. Oh, and whether we believe it or not, there have been reports that this is a franchise which does need to shed payroll.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 11:42 AM) Clearly the cop deserves no sympathy here, right? I'd say that's at the very least debatable, as we've seen in this thread.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 12:50 PM) Walmart organizes food drive for its own employees This is a yearly article at this point btw, you just have to find which one runs it first.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 01:29 PM) Why would the Dodgers do that? Do you really think they view Alexei Ramirez to be such an upgrade over the next two years that they'd trade Matt Kemp - who is an overrated player but not a bad player - and would kick in $20 million on top of that for him? So the Dodgers get one of the top 5 shortstops in the game for the next year+ and remove a total of $67 million in salary obligations? I think they'd be crazy not to do that.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 11:19 AM) Interesting strategy by the carmines to stockpile OFers. Supposedly Napoli is available, too (one year left on contract). Obviously they need pitching. Wonder if this takes them out of the Lester sweepstakes. Or Scherzer. So far, this puts them somewhere in the range of $165-$170 million depending on how the money for these guys is distributed. That's a boost from their payroll last year, so it might well require them to move one of these guys in order to have the money to add a big pitcher.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 11:09 AM) The sad thing is following some of the responses I have seen to this case, it wouldn't shock me if a lot of people out there thought this was true. You've really nailed the downside of this shooting. The police officer feels terrible and people are saying silly things. How awful for those who have to endure this true suffering.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 09:38 AM) $400 million of contracts in half a year with Rusney Castillo, Sandoval, Ramirez and Hamels. Makes the Stanton contract look crazy. Still less than a couple of the Yankees spending binges IIRC. Aroid, CC and Tex all were signed to deals in one offseason.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 09:30 AM) If the Sox DFA Wilkins, does anybody even claim him? It requires giving up a 40 man spot if someone does right? I'd say that makes it unlikely.

QUOTE (bruni @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 09:20 AM) I'd be most interested in Middlebrooks on the cheap to solve 3B. Potential delayed with injury and mismanagement but (to me anyway) far more potential and nice power to solve 3B for the long term. Or give up more and try to snag Bogaerts if you can, but Middlebrooks should cost far less and fills a need. I don't think Middlebrooks was mismanaged, I think he's just one of those guys with a big strikeout problem thats difficult to overcome.

QUOTE (MDWhiteSoxFan @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 09:08 AM) Ok this may sound stupid but LaRoche will be primary DH correct? Could Tank be the potential bat to face LHP if we go a platoon route? I just looked at Vicideo's career splits and against LHP he seems to be a solid bat. (Again I'm not a huge metrics or advanced numbers guy). But in his career against LHP he has a .291/.331/.507 slash. Seems solid to me or am I wrong. What is an acceptable OBP and Slugging%? EDIT: Err just looked at 2014 he was horrid against LHP maybe cancel this idea. Viciedo was great against LH pitchers in his first couple seasons but starting in 2013 he was about the same against both types of pitchers. The problem is that he got slightly better against righties and vastly worse against lefties, making him worse overall.That's been the case for 2 years now.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 11:05 PM) Freak pitching and homers Freak pitching = Quintana

1 year from free agency his trade value can't be that high, but the White Sox shouldn't be giving things up for guys 1 year from free agency.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 03:30 AM) Reddick would be a nice player to have, the only weird thing is that in 2014 he hit 90 points better IN Oakland. You'd really want to be the other way around, surmising that he'd have more value to us in US Cellular than Oakland in O.Co. He just seems to have trouble staying healthy. In a full season, he looks like he'd be a pretty easy 3+ WAR guy. That is sort of the format of a guy who it makes sense for us to target...undervalued, injury issues, 2 years of team control left, if he doesn't succeed not a big loss but he's going to get playing time somewhere. I can't figure out what I'd give up to get him though.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 08:54 PM) I think Tim Anderson's a much better prospect... Yeah, i gotta go with this for the win.

QUOTE (bear_brian @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 07:24 PM) Dodgers want a major league shortstop and want to reduce payroll and open up room in the outfield for Pederson. This deal has the Sox taking on all of Kemp's obligation with the exception of the $12M in cash. The Dodgers thank you and are trying to hold back their laughter.

Can't get past the contrast with this.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 04:58 PM) Why is everyone laying awake at night thinking of ways to prevent Semien from being the everyday SS? IMO, if the org thought there was any chance of him taking over the SS position they'd have played him there for a few games before Saladino got hurt. Instead, Saladino played there almost every day until he got hurt. They didn't seem like they had confidence in him there.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) Or perhaps they promote Saladino, a guy who might be underrated, and Diaz is SS in AAA. Between Saladino, Semien, Sanchez, Diaz, and I suppose Garcia there's gotta be a guy there that can be a stopgap rill Anderson comes along. I wouldn't be surprised if Saladino performed this year, but I've got to see him some post-injury at Charlotte first. That's where Diaz could fit in, no idea how long Saladino's comeback will take.