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QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 10:50 AM) The only real design flaw I saw there that one could, imo, legitimately claim is that there was no safety net in that opening between the stands/railing and the scoreboard/fence. That area should never have been left exposed like that. A safety net isn't really the best answer there...there's a lot you could do with the railing itself. First of all it should have been taller, it's too easy for a person to put his or her center of mass well to the opposite side of the railing. Second, the horizontal bar configuration is a very poor design...a person or a kid can stand on the lower bar and push himself/herself farther out and into a more dangerous situation (I know I did that as a kid at amusement parks). The right design is a railing tall enough that people can't genuinely lean over it with tightly spaced vertical bars in-between....but the one problem is that it would probably cost you a row of seats, since an effective fence would be in the way of the lowest row of seats, so you'd have to sacrifice some revenue to do the safety part correct.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 10:48 AM) To me there is a big difference between dangerous, and not idiot proof. If you're building a facility to serve 20,000 people alcohol 81 times a year, idiot-proof must be the only goal.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 10:45 AM) AH jeez, I bet it was McDonald's fault when that dumbass lady burned herself with hot coffee. 100% yes. That still remains the single worst example you could possibly give in your case.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 10:29 AM) I will agree that yes, the railings could probably be higher and safer, and that's probably the case in most MLB ballparks. The fan doesn't deserve all the blame. Improving the fan's experience often takes precedence over safety in designing these parks. That being said, even if a majority of fans would have done the same thing, it still doesn't mean it wasn't reckless. You still have to be careful when hanging over a railing like that, it's not like that happens daily at all the various baseball stadiums all over the country. A quality building inspector and a quality architectural design team will do everything possible to consider these one in a million safety events. It doesn't happen daily at the ballparks because you can design things better than that fence, and your inspectors make sure that ballparks do so. If you have 100 fences that are designed poorly, you'll only run into the right set of circumstances once in a blue moon, but when the response is to scream "Personal responsibility!" as some sort of mantra lecturing the guy who did what a normal father would do, then we're really just accepting these events because it's the fan's fault.

You might be stunned at how wrong you are. Then again, after seeing you in the Filibuster, you're probably used to that.

QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 10:01 AM) I agree Greg. At some point people are going to have to accept that he is not a great pitcher anymore and stop making excuses. He, like Jackson, may have a dominant game every so often but the ace potential is gone and an extended rest won't help. Isn't "just accept that he's not a great pitcher any more" also making excuses?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 10:01 AM) Are you serious? That's absolutely false. I can guarantee you I wouldn't have (partly because I am scared of heights). There's ways to reach for a baseball without putting your whole upper body over the railing and losing control and falling. But of course, it's America, let's not hold someone personally responsible.Of course, it's America, let's let the big money entity which has a stadium with a flawed design entirely off the hook. I'll give you a pass on the fear of heights thing, but I'd guarantee you I'd have done just about the same thing, and I'd bet a huge majority of baseball fans would have done the same. The ball was a little short, your brain is processing "If I don't reach for it, I miss the ball" during that split second. It's not processing the risk that fast, and it's not even realizing that its at risk until its too late.

Very old continental landmass collision.

Here's the schedule as it stands now. A few more days of meetings now. Then, meetings shift to D.C. Later this week, the process shifts back to Minnesota for one last mandatory arbitration session. The arbitrator will basically ask if they have a deal in place or not. If they have an effective deal, it's done. If not, then its trouble. There is an owners meeting scheduled in Atlanta for July 21. At that meeting, the owners need to approve the new CBA. If that happens, then the Bears and Rams somehow can start camp immediately and perhaps be ready in 2 weeks for the Hall of Fame game, perhaps with the oddity of the Bears and Rams actually having open camps during the free agency week. If any of those deadlines are missed, then the hall of fame game is missed, and the league begins losing money. They lose about $250 million that first week if they miss that game.

I legitimately think someone will make a run at this mark in our lifetimes. People have made the 2 points already in this thread...if Jeter keeps up his current pace he'll get there...but the thing that will likely stop him is that he'd have to go play somewhere else to get that last season or two in. Ichiro of course is on the pace and would have gotten there had all his Japanese hits been US hits. The fact that we have 2 guys who *could* have done it in the right circumstances means its not unbreachable.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 09:43 AM) That's the truth. This wasn't even a situation where there was nothing the fan could do to avoid the injury/death, like getting hit by a line drive or something. The guy made a personal decision to act recklessly just for a baseball, and it cost him his life. Leaning against a railing within the legally permitted zone of a major league ballpark is not acting recklessly. If the Rangers didn't want people able to put the upper half of their body over that railing, then they needed a higher railing. Everyone here would have done the same thing.

That's what they want you to think.

Russians make quiches, don't they?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 09:42 AM) If this keeps up, one of them is gone for sure. There is no doubt about that. They have trouble co-existing while winning. It will collapse with too many more losses. I thought that was pretty clear at the start of the season. I wouldn't have been surprised if both of them were gone if they pulled together an 83-79 season.

QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 06:15 PM) Given their reluctance to make any changes to the team this season, I still think this is the most realistic outcome. If nothing else...waiting until the season end gives KW a fall guy and maybe still allows a trade of him to Florida (although not for anything incredibly valuable0.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) apparently Castro will not likely be returning this season, so get used to Flowers As long as AJ is around, Flowers will be on the bench most of the time. With a veteran like Castro, Ozzie would force AJ to the bench every now and then. Now AJ gets to pull the "what, you're going to play the rookie over me?" card until the season ends in September.

Obviously the answer is to dip him in hot oil and eat him.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 09:31 AM) I've had it way better than my DAV dad. I've wasted enough time in the past 3 months trying to get a single document filed that I could have written a whole extra paper. Can't even escape it by running off to Chicago and Orlando. Immediately back and spent another hour this morning on it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 09:29 AM) That would be more like being a student of history. They can't even handle health care for veterans. The private sector can't even handle it for healthy 30 year olds.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 01:32 PM) You should have made more launches then, and saved NASA some money. I dunno, if I had tried, all of the anti-abortion billboards might have screwed with my mind so much that I wound up aborting myself.

Btw, flaxx, the number of anti-abortion messages in this state is just ridiculous. After the 80th billboard I couldnt think of anything other than abortion. I wouldn't want to do that drive with a five year old even to get to Disney.

Worth a shot. He'll never play, of course.

Hey, did we just beat the Twins?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 02:57 PM) I imagine Greg Oden will be announcing his retirement this time next year. The C position will never be dominant again. The Blazers picked up an $8 million option on him just before the lockout started.

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