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QUOTE (The Critic @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 11:27 AM) It gets trickier the older he gets. It's as if there's a third language in between Dustish and English that I'm not recognizing. Yes, I believe what you're hearing is the accent most commonly referred to as "Coot" in most parts of the country.

QUOTE (hogan873 @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 08:25 AM) Good arcticles. Sad to see Thome go, but he's with a team that can make the playoffs and he really had no spot with the Sox in 2010. I like the Contreras deal. This pitcher in return has a potential good up side. Incorrect.

I have nothing against the starter of this thread, but these are my most hated types of threads, the "here is my opinion on what next year's team should look like because we blew it again this year" type. It just lets me know that we underachieved again and opens the door for thousands of various lineup scenarios.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 10:50 AM) It doesn't matter what he does on Nip/Tuck or in the rest of his career, he was still in that awful Congo movie. /Ernie Hudson Are you kidding me? Congo was one of those great, terrible movies that comes out once in a great while.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 10:44 AM) And Jeff Cox. He said "shut down" not "put down"

QUOTE (RibbieRubarb @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 08:18 AM) With Jose...we have no Championship. Thanks for being our Ace in 2005! Wow, give the guy some credit.

I look forward to watching his first start for the Sox some time at the beginning of next baseball season.

QUOTE (elgonzo4sox @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 09:37 AM) Great post. I'm in until the last out of the season is made. There is still hope for 2009 - they still have enough head-to-head games left with the Twins & Tigers. KW hasn't given up on 2009 yet - losing Contreras and Thome doesn't hurt at all for this year (Contreras is a key reason the Sox are under .500 right now, and losing Thome will give more DH time to Q, Konerko and Dye, who could all use some rest by not playing in the field). But they gotta start by kicking some Twin butt, fast, and then beat the flailing Cubs, then do to the Red Sox what they did to the Yankees when the Yankees came to The Cell a few weeks ago. Yes, that is exactly what KW was thinking. It had nothing to do with giving Thome an actual chance for a ring by sending him to a real contender. Jesus.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 09:10 AM) Someone who is a fan of the team would be in it until we are mathematically eliminated. unfortunately, most folks use the sox as an outlet for their daily frustration, and they were out the first loss of the season. Oh, you're so much better of a fan than the rest of us. To be a true fan, must we watch every game and still think we're in it until we're mathematically eliminated? I'll be watching either way, even though I know we're out of it.

QUOTE (The Critic @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 02:47 AM) Just a few random Dusty-isms: Son of a plumber - he referred to his father being a plumber to further his image as The Common Man Clubberin' (a term he used as an announcer when someone was getting beaten up - "he's takin' a clubberin'!") Pay window (the winner of a match would get more $$ back in Dusty's day, so if you win you "go to the pay window") "If ya will" - Dusty threw that in his promos sometimes ("It's gonna be nasty....a donnybrook, if ya will...") Baybuh = baby Ah, the good old Dusty Rhodes to English translation.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 12:52 AM) OP says we're getting money. Optimus Prime?

QUOTE (tommy @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 12:38 AM) I was just going to ask.. have we waived the white flag? I would say so, yes.

Another thing I'm glad to see is that KW obviously has packed it in for the season. We don't have to continue watching throughout September with that "we're still in this thing" mentality.

OK, I see how they got very damn good value for Contreras, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this Hynick guy will never turn into anything good.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 12:07 AM) I don't see it that way. From my understanding if Dye would have been moved he would have had his 12m automatically picked up, so to move him the Sox would probably of had to eat a ton of that contract next year. He'll play the month out and file for FA, Sox won't offer him arb. and he and Thome will probably both be out there Well, that's good news. My ideal is going to be picking up Adam Dunn somehow.

Jim Thome is obviously one of the classiest guys in the game. It's sad to see him go on that level, plus the fact that this means we'll likely sign Dye for DH next year. It's a shame that we couldn't accomplish anything major during Thome's tenure here, so maybe he can get something with the Dodgers. It was nice too see him hit #500 for us, and would've been nice to see #600, but the rest of his tenure here was pretty fruitless.

I truly appreciate the World Series and his hard work throughout the years, but thank the Lord he's gone.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 10:26 PM) Philly didn't win a playoff game in either of Rowand's years with the club and then won the WS immediately after he left. SF sucked last year with Rowand. They have improved dramatically this year because they have 2 starting pitchers who are among the best 5 in baseball and that never lose and then their bullpen has been outstanding. I'm sure Rowand contributing to the 3rd worst offense in the NL has had a lot more to do with SF's success this year than the fact that they have the 2nd lowest ERA in the NL and 2 Cy Young contenders. I'm sure Rowand's intangibles is what has led SF to drop their ERA by over 1 run per game this year. Yeah, that is exactly why they have improved so much.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 09:06 PM) Underachieved in 2005, really? I mean they won 90 games in 2006 and missed the playoffs because Detroit was just better. 2007 was a bad year, mainly because they were a bad team. The fact that in 2008 Ozzie got that pile of garbage into the playoffs is very respectable, IMO. Clearly I meant they have underachieved since they won the World Series. And yes, they underachieved in 2006 by blowing the division.

I have been napping all night, so this is brand new to me. I haven't read any of this thread yet, but I assume this means we re-sign Dye for DH. I do not like that.

QUOTE (The Critic @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 05:40 PM) OK, I can't even understand that one. QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 09:42 PM) LOL @ Shockmaster Ha, what?

QUOTE (The Critic @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 05:33 PM) I see what you did there.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 01:07 PM) Because if his teaching skills (or lack thereof) aren't the problem, what's the point in getting rid of him? Replacing an offensive coordinator on a football team will drastically change an offense's performance (one way or the other). Replacing Walker will alter the Sox's offense about as much as replacing Jeff Cox. Instead of scapegoating Walker, I'd be looking to address the real problem: the players. That likely would improve the offensive output.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 12:24 PM) It's too bad that Perry had so many injury issues. Dude was pretty talented. And I'd say clutch, too. He was also one of the few players to show up in that Mariners ALDS series.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 10:04 AM) So he noted that Hudson isn't on the 40-man, but he didn't note that Flowers isn't either? Stone thinks he's a lot smarter than he really is. Someone will have to be dropped from the 40-man when Flowers contract is purchased from Charlotte. My guess is Colon is an easy move to make. Perhaps you're correct, but he's one of the best in-game analysts going.