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QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 06:27 PM) Kids are stupid about things like that. My son only recently figured out how to erase the brower history. Although I have informed him that I can still find out where he goes because compared to him, I am a computer God, and then proceeded to show him on his computer where he had TRIED to hide some porn, and then recited the list of things said on hi Myspace page that he didn't know I knew about. STILL tried to insist that he didn't have anythign to do with the page, despite several specific messages on there between him and his girlfriend. Sometimes it just takes an aa whippin'. I simply removed everythgin from his room except the bed and 2 sets of clothes, which were also clothes he didn't like. My room and the office were pretty crowded with his desk, computer, guitar, etc. but he slowly earned it back, and either learned his lesson, or now hides stuff very well. I even had a friend who is a computer genius over last weekend take a look at it, and can't find anything that is new. Good luck, Lostfan. It aint easy being the bad guy. How old is he?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 06:30 PM) lol. the reason she is allowed to have a myspace (she is 11), unbeknownst to her, is that she never remembers to log out so I spy on her conversations fairly regularly. Most of it is mindless 6th grade chatter. That doesn't seem a little too much to you?

I've missed well over 100 posts since I last read this thread. Has anything been finalized? Do we have exact names yet?

I thought it said "Beer Midget," and I thought this was an incredible idea.

QUOTE (Kid Gleason @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 08:59 PM) Ozzy Osbourne died in a plane crash back on March 19th, 1982 with his brilliant guitarist Randy Rhoads. I have no idea who this twat that has replaced him since then is, but he sucks and ruined a wonderful name. QUOTE (The Critic @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 09:23 PM) I blame the money-hungry puppetmaster much more than the drug-addled, half brain-dead 60 year old (well, 60 tomorrow, anyway). Sharon Osbourne is an absolute pig who will stoop to any depth for a buck. These are the responses I was expecting.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 08:12 PM) I hope but the "experts" (Rogers and Rosenthal) says the Sox are trimming payroll. Maybe I am misinterpreting this as next year's payroll is going to be significantly smaller when really it's that we are freeing money to go after players. The math was already done in this thread. If the White Sox trade Dye, which they most likely will do, they will have cut over $40 million. There's no way they drop that much. Nobody would show up. They might drop the payroll about $10-15 million, I'd think.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:52 PM) We all know your opinion on him.... Fact or opinion? In this situation, they're the same.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 07:48 PM) Just to get the other opinion, Flowers IS 22 in A ball. I dunno dudes. And Javier Vazquez sucks.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 06:36 PM) Some of us are doing the googling of him now. What would you like to know? He was solid in the Pittsburgh organization, traded in the Laroche deal to the Braves, he struggled some with the Braves as they moved him up pretty quick, and last year was pretty rough for him althoguh I'm trying to find out if he was hurt for part of the year. I've only ever heard his name, and know nothing of him. Any information would be helpful.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 06:12 PM) Right-handed pitcher Javier Vazquez has been told he's headed from the Chicago White Sox to the Atlanta Braves in a deal which is likely to be finalized on Wednesday. Vazquez is flying to Atlanta on Wednesday morning for a physical. A baseball source told ESPN's Peter Gammons that the deal will include four other players, including reliever Boone Logan, who would also go from the White Sox to the Braves. Among the players expected to go from Atlanta to the Chicago organization are Jo-Jo Reyes, Brett Lillibridge and another top prospect. Vazquez, 32, was 12-16 last season for the White Sox with a 4.67 ERA in 33 starts. He struck out 200 batters in 208 1/3 innings. Logan, a left-handed reliever, was 4-4 with a 5.70 ERA out of the White Sox bullpen last year. He had a 2-3 record in 55 appearances. Reyes was 3-11 with a 5.81 ERA last season for the Braves. He started 22 games. Lillibridge appeared in 90 games at Triple-A Richmond in the Braves organization. He hit .220 with four home runs and 39 RBIs. Was he hurt? That sounds terrible. Also, this is a good deal for both Vazquez and Logan. It never hurts to pitch for the Braves. Vazquez is now back in the NL and much, much closer to Puerto Rico.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 06:10 PM) If we got Mike Gonzalez, or even Rafael Soriano, as part of the deal, I'd be a happy man. I'd prefer Gonzalez, but he's a bigger injury risk. Also, if we got Gonzalez, that could/would make Jenks more expandable. He doesn't have much more room for expansion! Ha, I'm a few pages behind and hope I'm not late on this joke.

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! I've been waiting for something, ha. Anyone have any details on Lillibridge?

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 03:42 PM) That's been around awhile. It's kind of sad when millionaires have nothing better to do than get arrested. Yes, someone even had it as their avatar for a while. It might've been REM JICO.

I'm not sure of your ages, but were either of you fans from the very beginning? I'm trying to put myself into the shoes of someone who has been following a band since its origin, and then sees something like this happen. I can only speculate, as I haven't followed any band or singer for that long, and none of the bands or singers I've liked for a while have sold out yet.

Can a mod chance it to "Ozzy" in the title? EDIT: Wow, did it before I even asked. Thanks to whomever that was.

This is mostly pointed towards posters who have been fans since the heyday of Ozzy and Black Sabbath. How does it make you feel to see Ozzy become such a huge whore in the past decade? I love Black Sabbath and the non-recent Ozzy stuff, and it gives me a pretty clear feeling of disappointment to see what Ozzy has become. I have one uncle in particular who was an enormous fan growing up, and I can only imagine how he feels on the subject. So, before I can actually ask him, I'd like to hear what you people have to say. EDIT: I just realized I spelled his name throughout the thread. OG on the brain.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 01:50 PM) What would these players have to do with Fukudome? All Japanese players will be dissapointments now? The "whoa is me" KW is back with $.75, and everything costs $1.00. There is no reason to comment if you don't have the budget for it. If they are so broke, how in the hell were they going to pay for Hunter or Fukudome last season? Woe, Nelly.

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 01:47 PM) I agree. It is probably KW's way of sending the message that the Japanese players are asking too much money. Agreed, and it looks like we've found ourselves a nice little market in Cuba. Everyone is looking in Japan right now, but I think we have a clear advantage for any player coming out of Cuba. And IMO, I'd take a Cuban player any day of the week over a Japanese player. They are both fundamentally sound for the most part, but Cubans seem much less hit-or-miss and also seem to have more staying power (and power in general). I think people are coming late to the party when it comes to signing Japanese players. People see the Dice-K's and Ichiro's, but there are a lot of crap players coming out of Japan that get nice contracts due to the minority of quality MLB players coming from that area. What I'm saying is basically that I would rather focus on Cuba (and the Americas as a whole) because I believe the talent to be much, much greater.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 01:50 PM) That's sort of circular, though, isn't it? It is about feeling beautiful, pretty, wanted, desired, etc. And thanks to the advertising trends, they're repeatedly told that, in order to be those things, they need to be a size zero. Could just be natural body build. Myself, my younger brother and my grandfather are all 6'2" to 6'4" and we all weigh under 170 (at least my grandpa did when he was younger, has a whiskey gut now). I eat 2-3000 calories a day and don't exercise as much as I should (read: I'm lazy and don't burn a lot of calories), but I can't put on weight without consuming a massive amount of calories and lifting daily. My favorite meal is probably a 1/2# bacon cheeseburger with some ice cream for desert. My body fat percentage is just naturally really, really low. Well, there is your problem, my friend. If you're eating as few as two calories some days, you'll probably remain as skinny as you are. Now, back to your regularly scheduled serious discussions.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 12:15 PM) Now THIS is a woman! In the picture you posted, I'd do her. The one in the article...eh, not so much. Then again, one of my goals in life is to nail an attractive chunky girl.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 01:09 PM) thats pretty much the most badass thing i've ever heard. Agreed, but only equally as awesome as: QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 12:58 PM) I bring a cape with me wherever I go.

QUOTE (The Critic @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 11:28 AM) Well, it's not the Hall of Greatness, it's the Hall of Fame. So only the most famous players should get in, obviously. That makes Swisher a shoo-in.

I'm very proud of myself.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 09:51 AM) That and the milkman vote It goes a long way.

QUOTE (mreye @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 10:15 AM) I have three kids, so dirty shoes on our carpert might be an improvement. I only encourage people to remove them if they just came in out of the snow or something. I always take mine off at others' houses, but I take my slippers with me. You carry slippers around with you?