White Sox Josh

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 10:27 PM) I'm sorry, but someone with child porn working with middle schoolers? Nuh-uh. did i ever say that I think he did the right thing? No i didn't. I am upset by this news. However that doesn't take away from the fact he was a great teacher and a nice guy.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 10:22 PM) What exactly does it take for a person to seem bad to you? Steroids? OK Child Porn? Just fine Michigan hater? Die I hope if I'm ever in court, you're my judge. Sounds like I could skullf*** anyone without asking, but it'd be fine cause I'm generally nice. Go to hell. I am not saying this is right however I hope that he can put this behind him. He made a mistake. What the hell is your problem anyways?

Thanks for not bashing this guy. He was a good guy and a very good teacher. I hope that he gets this cleared up. Maybe he will learn his lesson.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 06:16 PM) http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/porn06.html Pretty sad, and scarier than all he was my 7th grade History teacher. Part of me feels really bad, then there is the part that thinks he is an idiot. he was my 8th grade math teacher. He was probably my favorite teacher.

Mike & Mike In the Morning If I am not in school i will listen to the Dan Patrick show Mac Jurko & Harry

Did Kenny say anything about Frank?

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 05:32 PM) stop.

ugh it will be so disturbing to see him in an A's Uniform.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 10:47 AM) I think Price would be a good tag team with Mushin Muhammed. We didn't use Peerless at all in Dallas. I think if the Bears could get him, they'd look good. can't he return punts to. That would be a double bonus.

Do you know what I love? The fact that the Cubs just got John Mabry while we are going after former Batting Champ Bill Mueller to be our Utility Infielder.

QUOTE(trev76 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:50 PM) Big game next week at steelers... Orton's going to have to play descent or else I'd like to see grossman get in from what I've seen of grossman he can at least give the recievers a shot at catching the ball I love how Grossman is considered the savior. How do we know that Grossman is better. Because he throws for more yards?

QUOTE(ilsox7 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:31 PM) It's a long debate. But the current BCS system is worse than both a playoff and the old system. the BCS got it right this year though. Well in terms of the #1 and #2 teams.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:20 PM) If it's such a crappy bowl Josh, why are you so upset? the Outback Bowl isn't crappy. At least not for me. They deserved to be in the Outback Bowl.

The Alamo Bowl was targeting Michigan all the way. It will be against Nebraksa because they wanted the history of the matchup. 97 Split Championship.

QUOTE(ilsox7 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:13 PM) Actually, Iowa probably travels just as well or better than Michigan. Especially when it comes to these crappy bowls. Michigan fans want to go to the Rose Bowl or a National Championship game. Most won't spend the time and money to go to Florida or Texas for a meaningless game. With Iowa's recent resurrection, their fans go just about anywhere. And, as I already said, Michigan is slightly better than Iowa. Not "much better." You can look at strength of schedule and all of that crap. Both teams had the SAME record. When they played each other, Michigan won a CLOSE game by 3 points. It is what it is. i went to the Capital One Bowl against Auburn in 2001. 85% of the Stadium was Michigan. They also got a ton of Michigan fans against Florida in 2003 for the Outback Bowl.

QUOTE(ilsox7 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:04 PM) You said Michigan was "much better" than Iowa. They are not much better. Slightly better is accurate. And who really cares when it comes down to the Outback Bowl and the Alamo Bowl. In fact, Michigan deserves the shaft for the way they played most of the year. The team should not rest on the shoulders of one guy, which it pretty much did this year. And if you have not figured it out yet, college football is one big clusterf***. look at strength of schedule. Look at the fact that Michigan travels much better than Iowa. A lot of that is what is selected for going into these games. And the Outback Bowl is still a pretty good bowl game to get into.

QUOTE(ilsox7 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:57 PM) They were not much better than Iowa. Slightly better, yes. Much better, no. Then again, maybe in your world 3 points and the same exact record is much better. Don't go around flaunting Michigan as some supreme team that just played poorly this year. We were a slightly above average team. Deal with it. Michigan didn't play well. However they were better than Iowa. They also didn't have Mike Hart for that game. Michigan doesn't deserve to go to a BCS game. I am not building them up as some supreme football team. However with the criteria that goes into picking the bowl games Michigan deserves to go over Iowa.

QUOTE(ilsox7 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:47 PM) Iowa was just about 1 notch below UM. And that comes from a Michigan fan. Iowa lost to Michigan. Michigan beat Iowa at Iowa. That put a stop to Iowa's win streak at home. Look Michigan shouldn't be in this position because they didn't play well this season however they were much better than Iowa.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:43 PM) Go Hawks! Even a down year and Ferentz has his boys playing a major bowl. they don't even deserve to go. They have no place in a Major Bowl Game. I am sorry but that is the truth.

QUOTE(THEWOOD @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:35 PM) Josh....Big Ten 3 goes to the outback....Michigan is going to the Cap One...whats the problem?? Wisconsin will be going to the Capital One Bowl. They don't go by the standings when they pick games like the Capital One Bowl and the Outback Bowl.

f*** THIS s***! Didn't Michigan beat Iowa at Iowa!

If Iowa goes before Michigan I will be so pissed!

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 03:34 PM) Orton wasn't good at all today, but you guys are being way to hard on him. His job is as a caretaker of the offense, don't turn the ball over, and he did that oce again. The playcalling left a lot to be desired today. We didn't complete a third down through the air because we were running mostly shooptastic 5-yard routes on 3rd-and-7. Jones still isn't right. He's afraid to run between the tackles. He should be used more as a 3rd down back until he actually takes on a defender. I know somebody's going to say, "but he got 80 yards today".. I say great, 75 of them were to the outside. Which is all fine and dandy, but that's a finesse running attack; All-or-nothing. I'd rather stick with A-Pete getting most of the carries up the middle. Worst call of the game was 3rd-and-1 when A-Pete has driven you 50 yards all between the tackles, and they throw this misdirection pitch that puts him 1-on-1 on the outside. Run it down their throats. Sure you got stopped on 2nd-and-1, but you succeeded on the 8 previous plays before that. thank you. I agree with you 100%. Do you think that if Orton is up against a bad team that they should maybe open up the playbook to see what Orton can do? I would like to see if he can do what he did against Detroit again. But i was yelling at the TV when Peterson didn't get the ball at that time. Why stop with what is going right.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 03:33 PM) Grossman isin't a viable option IMO. Yeah he has more talent than Orton ( DUH! ) but you breathe on the guy wrong and hes out 4-6 weeks. For now I say give Blake a chance ( wont happen cause the defense keeps bailing out Orton ). In the offseason its time to look for a star QB in free agency or at least a serviceable one. Jeff Blake was OK was in 2002. His numbers in 2003 and in 2004 are worse than Orton's right now.

QUOTE(ilsox7 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 03:32 PM) You said the reason Orton sucked is b/c his WR's suck. I simply pointed out that you were wrong. And, I went on further to say that only the coaches really and truly know if Grossman is ready and able to take over for Grossman. and the coaches know that by Grossman being 3rd string. Isn't that message enough.