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Haha i looked all over for Gonzalez news, and read the entire article. Then I read this thread and went ohhhh

If ND hires Edsall im going to go insane. I knew firing Weis was a bad idea this year.

TCU vs Boise? f*** you BCS.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Dec 6, 2009 -> 11:23 AM) what a classless remark from a classless guy leaving a worthless program. Here's to more years of getting your ass kicked by Navy, notre dame. Enjoy! http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/ncf/news/story?id=4719509 He basically used that as an example saying anything he does is national news, and if Pete Carrol does anything its not talked about. He didn't actually mean Carrol was sleeping with a grad student. Maybe before you say something like this you should read up on Charlie. He has been nothing but class since his firing, and nothing but class before that.

ISU 75 CMU 62 Sloppy game, still won by 13. Birds 7-0

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Dec 4, 2009 -> 05:17 PM) Comcast now does from what I remember. Yes they do.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 4, 2009 -> 03:20 PM) Uh no. Lets put this in perspective using Wisconsin as an example. Wisconsin finished 6th last year in the Big 10, meaning that all 3 MVC teams would have to have been better than Wisconsin. Wisconsin was 20-11, losing only 3 OOC games. Wisconsin's OOC losses were UConn (ranked #2), Marquette and Texas (ranked #8). Why do you believe that Creighton or UNI would have finished higher than Wisconsin? In comparison, Creighton lost to Arkansas-Little Rock and Nebraska OOC. Northern Iowa lost to Illinois Chicago, lost to Marquette by 30 (Wisconsin lost by 3), lost to Iowa by 19, lost to Wyoming and lost to Iowa State. So no, I dont believe there is any rationale argument that either of those teams could have finished higher than Wisconsin. Last year Wisconsin had: RPI Rank: 45 SOS Rank: 16 UNI: RPI Rank: 59 SOS Rank: 84 Creighton: RPI Rank: 40 SOS Rank: 111 Notice the difference in SOS. Wisconsin was 16 and had similar records to 84 and 111. Sorry to bring facts to this argument, but its getting ridiculous. . Funny because from the numbers you showed me Creighton has a higher RPI then Wisconsin. RPI MVC Creightin 40 ISU 47 Big Ten Minnesota 42 Michigan 44 Wisconsin 45 So according to your numbers the 2 and 3 Valley teams are right on par with the 3 lowest big ten tournament teams. I don't need SOS either it's already factored into RPI and of course a big ten team is going to have a higher SOS just due to conference play alone.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Dec 4, 2009 -> 02:43 PM) Um, no. If you lose 9 or 10 games playing in the MVC like UNI and ISU did last year, you're not going to have a tournament-caliber resume in the Big 10. I give up like Rowand said you guys need to get off your high horse. The Valley in a down year last year had two teams in Creighton and UNI that would have finished higher then 7th in the Big Ten, with the potential for a 3rd in ISU who beat Creighton twice(easily both times) and lost to UNI 3 times by a combined 9 times. ISU's record just sucked because we s*** the bed twice vs Indy State.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 4, 2009 -> 12:02 PM) And despite the bad losses to Utah and Bradley, I would still bet lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of my money that if Illinios and ISU played 10 games ISU would be lucky to win 1 (let's keep this retread argument rolling!) It just doesn't end does it? The argument of being lucky to win one is gone, you lost to Bradley and Utah. In a top 25 coaches poll done the same way the the real coaches poll is done just with mid majors coaches Illinois state is 5th.. Bradley and Utah are worse the ISU and Illinois lost to them two nights in a row. That alone is enough to tell me that ISU would win 2-3 games(but then again you guys would just blame them on Jordan getting to much PT). Rock and everyone else I'm not saying that the Valley should get the same amount of bids as the big conferences I'm just saying the the 2nd and 3rd teams in the Valley are better then the 6th and 7th teams in the Big Ten. So when the Tournament gets picked leave the 6th and 7th teams of the Big Ten out, and put in the 2nd and 3rd teams in from the MVC. You saying that the top MVC teams wouldn't be able to compete for the Big Ten is true(most years) but ISU, UNI, and Creighton could finish higher then 7th in the Big Ten which according to the committee last year is tourney worthy.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 08:39 PM) Name me team from a smaller conference that has had a great year that didn't get in the tournament. 4 mid majors got at large bids last year. 30 of the 34 at large bids went to power conference teams. There is no argument here. It's become impossible to get into the tournament if your not a power conference team unless you win your conference tournament. The regular season no longer matters. If your a power conference team you have to play your way out of the tournament, and a mid-major has to play themselves in. I hope the selection committee remembers the game Creighton gave Michigan, and the game Bradley beat U of I this march when the Valley gets one bid, and the Big Ten gets 7. Teams with great seasons should make the tournament, not mediocre teams.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 02:17 PM) We should never be worse than UNI and should never lose to them at home. It's not a bad loss. You guys and the selection committee painting it as bad loses make it impossible for the MVC or any other non power conferance to get more then one team to the tourney.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 01:00 PM) We do lead the nation in 3 pt percentage, but I want to say we shot like 14 of them. UNI took it to Brackins and Gilstrap and dominated. I thought McDermott was supposed to be an awesome big man coach? Northern Iowa is not a bad team. I just love seeing the MVC winning these non-conference games, but they'll still only get 1 bid for the tournament.

Thought it may looks like I hate the Big Ten I'm actually rooting for them.

QUOTE (zenryan @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 08:12 AM) Another Florida Gator player arrested today. This time its starting DE Carlos Dunlap for DUI. Let's see if Meyer finds a way to let this kid play. undefined Suspended indefinitely, and out for saturday

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 03:01 PM) That's not saying a whole lot considering how bad it was in 2007. There was really nowhere to go but up. But KW and Co. recognized this was a major problem and took action. From managerial changes to an obvious change in drafting philosophy. It's still going to take a few years to recover from the putrid drafts of 2000-2006. And I was just pointing out the KW is doing exactly what he wanted him to do. Building a farm system.

QUOTE (Sonik22 @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 04:21 PM) ISU should try and make the dance for once before you start taking shots. Yeah the Illini suck right now, and yes I hate them but they have a history and ISU doesn't. Also, ISU hasn't played s*** this year either and are lucky to be getting votes right now. Congrats on barely beating a consistent A-10 bottom feeder @ Redbird though. Well little do you know St. Bonnie's has a legit team this year and will finish in the upper third or so of the A10 if not win it. Feel free to quote me on that at the end of the year if I'm wrong And was not taking any shots as I've already admitted in this thread that Illinois is better then ISU(though maybe I was wrong because SIU, and ISU are both better then Bradley). I just like to poke fun at the people who say that ISU has a 1% chance of beating Illinois if they played when it's closer to 25%.

QUOTE (chisoxt @ Nov 27, 2009 -> 01:00 PM) I for one hope that KW will be kicked upstairs soon and Hahn assumes control of the team. Face it, 05 was great but it was fluke. Since that time, Kenny has used the approach of leveraging prospects for older veteran types who have bigger contracts. Eventually, in order to have repeated success at CONTENDING we have to eventually develop a strong farm system where we not only develop good players but maybe actually keep a few of them. With the decline of hormone and amphetamine use, baseball to a large extent is reverting back to old days when power wasn't as important as pure fundamental baseball skills like speed, defense, on-base %, etc.. Things worked out OK in the last few years when we had the gate and advertisers to support a larger payroll, but with some bad seasons recently and a poor economy, I do not see Kenny's strategy of acquiring older and more expensive players , whether through free agency or trading prospects, as being sustainable. Sure getting Jake Peavy was great and our rotation is shaping up to be awesome next year but what about the rest of the team? I see us leading the league in quality starts but finishing in third place. What about the other holes on the team? I know that as a fan, I am in the minority here, but I think that future success will hinge on a younger team developed from within. Look at our farm system during 2007, and look at it now.

ISU gets 4 votes each in the AP and Coaches poll. Funny they have 3 more votes then the team they don't have a shot in hell of beating in the coaches poll, and only 1 less in the AP.

QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 10:38 AM) Except cry about Stanford running the score up on them, even though USC does it whenever they can. Ok, but back to Saturday's game Carroll was taking knees, and not running up the score so he did nothing wrong Saturday. Once UCLA calls timeout it's fair game.

Too bad it was not the MVC-ACC challenge, the ACC would lose for once.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Nov 11, 2009 -> 03:46 PM) Anyone got a Google Wave Invite for me? QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Nov 12, 2009 -> 11:13 PM) Marcus, if you get that Wave invite you gotta hook a fella up. If you guys want one still PM me your email, and I'll send you one. Same to MHizzle who I couldn't quote.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Nov 29, 2009 -> 05:49 PM) Birds move to 6-0 behind Eldridge's 28. Too close for comfort at the end, but they're the best team we have played yet. Their ridiculous shooting from the arch kept them in it too.

QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 29, 2009 -> 09:21 PM) I'd feel the same way, if Carroll didn't b*tch and moan about what Stanford did to them. Carroll was Knee'ing the ball to end the game and not run up the score, and clearly UCLA wanted no part of that. So if UCLA is still playing, then USC should still be playing too. Carroll did nothing wrong.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 29, 2009 -> 12:50 AM) Almost a huge brawl at the end of the USC-UCLA game. USC was taking knees up 14 with under a minute to go but UCLA was still calling timeouts. So on 3rd down USC ran a play action pass and scored a TD and then celebrated pretty extensively on their sideline. The UCLA started heading towards the USC sideline and got over half way there before they were stopped. Nothing wrong with what USC did there, UCLA was calling timeouts so they were still playing which means USC should still be playing too. I'd feel sympathy for UCLA if they wearn't calling timeouts and USC did that.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 29, 2009 -> 12:53 AM) Not sad for them since it was Golden's brother that punched Jimmy in the eye. How does that change anything?