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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 03:18 PM) Shes making a movie or something about sexism on the internet. Anyone who bases their opinion of people on twitter or comment sections on articles needs to have their head examined. Is there a link for more information on this? I'm not sure how she became involved in sports radio other than to give Dan Bernstein another nodding head when he takes the afternoon show down a path that reminds me of MSNBC whenever he can tie a sports issue to some social issue, but she really hurt whatever reputation she had with that Kane story. Now, I see she has become a Cubs insider out of nowhere and spends her day being outraged over twitter responses.
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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 09:09 PM) Dan Connolly @danconnollysun 37m37 minutes ago Sources: The #Orioles are negotiating with, and have made an offer to, LH-hitting Korean outfielder Hyun-Soo Kim, 27. A sign that they use their money on Davis and not spend big on Upton, Cespedes, or Gordon? Isn't Davis primarily a DH? Is this player projected as an OF? What kind of money is in play here as well?
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QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 06:35 PM) Would be nice if the Sox could add Frazier and Upton and not have Q involved. Why couldn't that happen? The White Sox aren't trading Quintana in a Frazier deal in all probability.
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Who will the next TV PBP be to split duties with Hawk?
spiderman replied to professa's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 08:06 PM) How about a real life broadcaster instead of an ex-Sox player? Someone of the John Rooney ilk. Not that I loved him, but still he was a pro. That is what they should do. Enough of this 'ex-White Sox' crap. Get an up and coming play by play talent. -
QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 08:30 PM) STLCards not chasing Alex Gordon - or any "dynamic" signing, @dgoold reports. So maybe down to CHW, Balt, and LAA ( the O's are rumored to be targeting Gallardo) Have the White Sox been linked to Gordon? How about Cespedes? I don't recall hearing any actual rumors, more speculation. Obviously, there have been some rumors earlier this month about Upton. Which of these require a draft pick to sign? Baltimore is the one team I'm not sure what they are doing, if they are truly out on Chris Davis also. Angels seem to be in the hunt and Cardinals claim they are not. Very interesting. Have to assume this will sort itself out quickly, as in this week for at least one of these guys.
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QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 01:34 PM) If 2016 is a development year then trade Sale,Q and Abreu. Get it over with already. You cant afford to waste years of their youth/contracts to try and see if any of the players besides Rodon can become anything decent. That's a waste. The patch work team hasn't been a mode for success. They probably should have looked into what Quintana could bring back (as that Arizona/Atlanta trade as a sample), but if the alternative option is tearing down the minor league system just as it's starting to improve, and giving big money to free agents isn't exactly a plan that has worked.
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QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 01:00 PM) they have been drafting way better, esp in the hitter dept. with hahn, i fully trust that problem will be fixed in the future. but the problem in now in the interim. If they are drafting better, all the more reason to keep them and let them come to the majors as a White Sox player. The alternative is much harder - keep trading young players away for veteran hitters and/or using free agency to sign veteran hitters. These options haven't worked. Let's try a long-term approach. Develop our own talent.
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QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 12:50 PM) AMEN. If you're going to go for it, go for it. But don't trade an Anderson and then trot out Garcia and LaRoche and have Erik Johnson as your #5. Agreed. I have been against the approach of signing free agents year after year because of their inability to develop position players, but they can't say they wan to go for it while Chris Sale is in his prime, and then leave so many gaping holes when some of them could be addressed in free agency AND in one season, they do drop $25+ million off the payroll when Danks/La Roche are up. I'm sure they could find a way to get creative, and pay a free agent less money in year one, but make up for it the back of the deal and/or give that player an option to opt-out early.
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Bold prediction: Adam La Roche will be on the White Sox next season.
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QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 05:21 PM) A #30 pick isn't worth infinity dollars. At some price and after some combination of moves, Fowler makes sense, but the Sox still need more big improvements across the team. If the only problem was that Avi sucks and everything else was good, then yeah, grab Fowler stick him at a corner outfield spot and that's a nice improvement. But they need bigger improvements overall which is why signing Upton or Cespedes seems a more direct route. Tend to agree; I don't think they should be making any moves that sacrifice draft picks. Mortgaging future draft picks is not a way to sustaining success. The White Sox could improve by adding a Fowler, but they really need impact bats in the middle of the lineup. They have Abreu, and Melky Cabrera (who will be in that #2-#6 spots, but there are 2 or 3 spots that must be improved drastically in the run producing spots of that order. These players are not on the team right now.
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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 09:28 PM) Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan 1m1 minute ago Hahn said White Sox are not done looking to improve offense. Yes! Keep doing it! Take my money! They have question marks all over the place from an offensive standpoint, and it appears limited money to spend in free agency. They don't seem interested in moving any starting pitching and don't have much minor league talent to trade. However, from both a 'found' money standpoint and moving young talent, they can probably surprise us and make a significant trade or make move on a free agent if they really wanted a specific talent, even if it impacts their minor league system, etc. It will be interesting to see what they are able to do with the limitations that appear to be in place.
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QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 08:21 PM) Well that may be it for the meetings, at least we got something done and it's a heck of a start. Hope we can land J Up and/or Fraizer or the Japenese 3B Isn't Lawrie the likely 3B?
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How does Lawrie's WAR compared to the cumulative WAR at 3B last season? How does he project to hit 1/2 of his games in Chicago? Defensively, is he considered, below average, average, above average?
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QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 07:15 PM) with the Lawrie rumor taking a rest, so to speak, what other viable option can the sox pursue?? any stopgap options ?? One option is Saladino and Ramirez, keep the draft picks, and focus on improving elsewhere.
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Orioles now bidding over $150 mil on Davis
spiderman replied to Bigsoxhurt35's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 07:10 PM) @JonHeymanCBS: Orioles are now OVER $150M on Davis bid. There's a gap but situation is "fluid." story on @CBSSports Uhh...am I the only one that thinks this is crazy? Are they bidding against any known team or does Boras have another team around his finger? -
QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 02:52 PM) Great insight. Obviously it's not done if we haven't heard anything about it. My sources can confirm that the deal has not been completed. If/Once Ken Rosenthal breaks in, I will alert everyone.
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Can a quick recap be provided of the situation? Has this stalled or is this expected to be completed? Is it Lawrie for prospects or is this deal rumored to be getting larger? Any other Sox nuggets?
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I'm probably one of the few, but I'm not opposed to the White Sox staying quiet(er) in free agency. My #1 focus continues to be rebuilding the minor league system and rebuilding it back. Having 3 draft picks in the first 50 or so picks is a good start, but they need to keep these picks and not be tempted on a free agent. They have addressed the catcher spot, and have internal options at 2B (Sanchez) and SS (Saladino). These may not be exciting options or even guys they can win with long-term, but why not find out next season? Same with the OF - Tryce Thompson is a good defensive player, the White Sox were high on A.Garcia before his 2015 season and they still have La Roche under contract for next season. I'm not saying to not make any moves, but avoid longer term deals, especially on stop-gap type players. If there's a player who is available who they believe can be part of a winning team beyond next season, I can support that, but I'd rather not lock myself into bad deals all to slightly improve. So, who on the market (or in a trade) can complement the young pitching staff that the White Sox have built?
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QUOTE (reiks12 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 09:09 AM) Rick Hahn on MLB Network Talked about "untouchables", Chris Sale, Jose Abreu, and Jose Quintana Interesting note, while Hahn was talking about the untouchables he said "Carlos, err... Jose Quintana". Rodon is not an untouchable? Or maybe he has Cargo on the mind? I don't read anything into this. First off, he may have just given 3 names off the top of his head. Secondly, as good as Quintana has been, he should never be on an untouchable list. That's silly.
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Teams are targeting SS Tim Anderson, #White Sox's No. 1 prospect,
spiderman replied to Whisox05's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 10:25 AM) Teams are targeting SS Tim Anderson, #White Sox's No. 1 prospect, as well as pitching prospects in trade talks. https://twitter.com/philgrogers/status/674263367234789376 While he is the White Sox top prospect, how does he stack up overall? I don't hear his name mentioned amongst the overall talent in the minors, but I'm hardly an expert on minor league talent. -
Gyorko has pretty good power number for a middle IF...Jay had a down year this past season, but had been a pretty good hitter previously. Not sure what each team is looking to do...
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If the White Sox want to move him, it comes down to 2 possibilities: 1) White Sox agree to pay most of his remaining salary. They don't have a history of doing this. 2) White Sox trade him to a team that has a need for 1B/DH and receive back a player making similar money. This would be the more likely option, but the number of teams that need La Roche is probably on the lower side.
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QUOTE (glangon @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 03:58 AM) According to Bob Nightingale on Twitter. Bob Nightengale @BNightengale · 20m20 minutes ago The #Whitesox shopping LaRoche, hoping to clear money for big bat I wonder if we can get anything for Adam Dunn MkII or will we have to package a prospect to get anything back. They must be desperate to get Upton What is he owed - $12 or $13M? Who do they think would want him? If other off-season moves are dependent on freeing up money by getting a taker for La Roche, it will be a quiet off-season (not necessarily a bad thing in my opinion since I am afraid of what they may do to their minor league system when trying to patch together a team).
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QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 7, 2015 -> 02:43 PM) Miley signed an extension last feb so it's possible. From what I gathered, Boston got rid a guy they didn't need after signing Price. Miley has worked with the Seattle coaching in the past so that was probably a factor also. Found this in the ESPN story - money wouldn't be a factor much. Miley is guaranteed $15 million over the next two seasons, with a club option for 2018.
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Did the Red Sox get rid of any salary in that deal by moving Miley?
