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Probably a 3 way battle in the spring between Sanchez, Garcia, and Johnson. Johnson is clearly the guy they would want to win the job, but he may not be ready. Garcia was not a MLB caliber player this past season, and Sanchez doesn't seem to be anything special. Too many outs still in this lineup, including 2B, 3B, LF and C. This is a position that will have to be addressed from within.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 01:23 PM) https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckGarfien/sta...340460627243008 While I would prefer they don't bring him up until June then so we don't lose a year with him as a reliever, I understand the approach. The White Sox have had success in the past with this, and he would fill a need as well. Obviously, this couldn't be a long-term (more than a season, if that) approach, but if the Sox have a formula that works, they should continue to use with Rodon.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 01:23 PM) https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckGarfien/sta...340460627243008 While I would prefer they don't bring him up until June then so we don't lose a year with him as a reliever, I understand the approach. The White Sox have had success in the past with this, and he would fill a need as well. Obviously, this couldn't be a long-term (more than a season, if that) approach, but if the Sox have a formula that works, they should continue to use with Rodon.

I wouldn't give him away, but then again, his play hasn't exactly inspired a lot of interest. The signing of LaRoche ended his career here. I thought there was an outside chance they could keep him as a DH; given that he can hit for power, that is a commodity that teams can use (including the White Sox) but it seems unlikely that they would bring him back to play regularly in the OF going forward. What's interesting is that they can probably use a somewhat decent 4th OF as well given Eaton's over the top aggression (at times) play, and the change that the eventual new LF isn't a guy who plays 145 games.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2014 -> 11:29 AM) Wayne Randazzo ‏@WayneRandazzo 3m3 minutes ago According to @MLBBruceLevine, Kenny Williams commented to him that resigning from the #WhiteSox is one of many options he's considering. Shame that Bruce Levine had Williams on the radio yesterday, and none of this was known.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2014 -> 11:16 AM) That is my biggest problem with it. Dude is walking away during the busiest time of the year for a front office, complete with the teams entire knowledge and plans. This is a true promotion, not a lateral one. White Sox should allow him to interview.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 05:08 PM) John Danks is owed $29 million. That's the equivalent of ~5 fWAR. If you just assume "He'll do what he did last year" you'd say he's likely to put up just over 1 fWAR, so he's overpaid by about $20-$24 million. In other words, you need a prospect who is at least good enough to put up that amount, with some risk associated with it. I'd say you're talking about a guy at least in the top 10 of our system, probably top 5-6 given the risks associated, to get someone to do that. If you consider that the rotation is likely to include, the below, there does seem to be room for a highly paid pitcher (maybe not Scherzer level), but the 3 out of 5 starters keep the rotation deals more than reasonable. Of course, the rest of the team has to be considered, but outside of Abreu, Ramirez and LaRoche, the team doesn't have have large salaries - Sale - Quintana - Danks - Rodon (maybe not to start the season, but by June) - ?????

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 02:31 PM) I could see them spending 100 mil Interesting, so that could mean, if true, that they have about $25M to play with. Of the approximate $75 million they have spent so far, how many players is that for? So if it's $75 for 11 players (just guessing), how many players from the remaining 14 that will be on the MLB roster to we project to be playing for the minimum?

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 10:13 AM) I'm telling you, we have more payroll and adding a REALLY good RHP to the rotation immediately makes us contenders IMO. Other threads say the White Sox have ~$15M or so to spend to get into the low $90M range. Not sure how much of that ~$15M is for free agents or players making minimum salaries to fill out the roster, but it seems, if that number is right, that the Sox can maybe add another 1 or 2 role player type(s), but they would be up against that 90M fairly quickly. Unless the Sox are looking to spend $110M or so, it's hard to see them competing for any premier free agents.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 02:59 PM) I put us at about $63-$64 million if Arb was offered to Viciedo, which it was. Plus $12 million for Laroche and $4.5 million for Duke puts us at within error of $80 million. $80 Million with how many players of the expected 25 man roster?

Would be strange for the White Sox to give up prospects for a guy who wants 110 million + on a new deal. Would the Sox really move 2 of their better prospects for a 1 year rental assuming he wants to become a free agent?

I'm not sure if this is a good move or not, but I like finding alternatives to paying decent players $15M a season. I have a bad feeling if we take that route, we're going to be stuck with players not worth their contracts and little/no flexibility.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 19, 2014 -> 12:13 PM) Now that we have Zach Duke signed as a LHRP, what do you think Carlos Rodon should do next season? I feel like he would benefit from a reliever role like Sale did, but I know that some of you would want him to start or stay in the minors. What do you think? He may not be brought up until June (if that means his free agency clock is pushed out for another season), but whenever he is on the roster, I expect that he'll start off as a #4 or #5 starter.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 19, 2014 -> 07:42 AM) If Zach Duke is fixed by throwing side arm and changing his pitches, why can't Danks do the same? I'm guessing that not every pitcher is as easily fixed as Duke was. Old habits are hard to break. To be honest, if Danks can pitch close to 200 IP again, as a #5 starter, how does he rank compared to others around the AL? Granted, he was signed to be a #2 or #3 starter, but this is what we have.

Don't like it based on my simple rule of no multi year deals for middle relievers. As good as he was last year, he was awful in 2013, and we know that's pretty common of middle relievers. I just don't have any confidence as to what version of Duke we will get.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 01:41 PM) At least 3, probably 4. Knowing they have at least $40 million to spend this off-season, I'm resigned that they are going to overpay whether it's on middle relievers or veterans past their peak years.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 01:33 PM) I don't like giving any reliever more than 2 years. How many years is Miller likely to get? I'd prefer 1 year deals, but I know that excludes guys like Miller.

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 11:20 AM) let me asked this, of the mlb teams needing a upgrade at SS and who may trade for that upgrade. who are they. NYM, MYY, Dodgers, OAK who else?? the way I am looking at this, does any of those teams have a sense of urgency to get this deal done? who will offer the better package? can the sox use this to fill those holes that they have?? does the sox really need to make this trade? well the sox really don't need to make this trade, however the sox can play all who are interested against each other. Dodgers and the Yanks seems to have the most that the sox need. the Mets has some key players that will help the sox now, and Oak, well I am not a big fan of them. Who are the veteran SS options on the market that a team might prefer over trading for Ramirez?

I'm a bit wary of giving multi-year deals to middle relievers.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 14, 2014 -> 01:25 PM) I have never gotten the impression that Kenny and Rick aren't of the same mind set when it comes to the direction of the club, so I am not even sure if a "veto" exists, if it would be all of that important anyway. I would assume that Kenny needs to sign off the direction of the team (Does Hahn want to tear it down? Rebuild? Etc) but Hahn handles the day to day activities. I'd be interested in knowing if any/all trades have to be reviewed with Williams or if they have a natural collaboration where Hahn does the leg work and they meet internally before making a final call. The White Sox give the impression that Hahn is responsible and makes the final decisions so that would mean Williams may be dealing with bigger picture items, not who is playing for the White Sox on the field necessarily.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 14, 2014 -> 09:04 AM) That depends on what the plan is for 2015. If the Sox are really trying to contend then there's no way I would trade Alexei but if 2015 is another step towards building a contender, I trade Alexei while he still holds value and can bring back a good return, provided the Sox get a good offer in the first place. I have been in agreement with you that it's tough to compete for a division if you're trading your starting SS away, especially with as holes this offense currently has. Saying that, now would be the time to move him, given his age/contractual status, and if there's any truth to some of these rumors about getting a top pitching prospect from the Mets. If they can add a young piece like that, I think you have to trust that the Sox can fill that SS position from within or with a veteran on a 1 year deal until Anderson is ready.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 14, 2014 -> 09:22 AM) Rock said that the Sox were never going to 4 years with VMart. If accurate, that gives me hope. No reason to handicap yourself 2 years from now when Martinez is likely to have a big fall off in production.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 04:23 PM) Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 12m12 minutes ago Rick Hahn: "While we do have some flexibility ... the bigger and perhaps more important part of that plan is to spend it wisely." #WhiteSox I'm waiting for the day when a GM says the plan is to spend foolishly. We'll see what his definition of wise is once the White Sox show their cards.

If he's not willing to sign an extension, it's hard to give up anything significant for him, especially considering that the A's will probably want quality minor league talent back.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 9, 2014 -> 08:57 AM) Found this hilarious little nugget at mlbtr.. "Cafardo says he got “a minute of straight laughter” when he asked if the White Sox might trade Chris Sale." That's a lot of laughter. Sorry BoSox fans, guess you won't be trading for Sale after all. You'd have to get a top ranked farm system to bite, and get their top 4 or 5 prospect's; even that, the answer is probably no. It does suck that the Sox have so much work to do, at both the minor/major league level to not waste the best years of Chris Sale.