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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 04:15 PM) Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 2h2 hours ago Don Cooper said Dan Jennings won't need a new pitch, just a "mechanical alteration." White Sox like the LHP. http://bit.ly/1vHCZxT Why does he need an alteration? His numbers look really good. What am I missing here?

Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan Hahn: Sox have reached $ limit but they still want upgrade in one area in particular. Presumably that's left field. Wants speed, athleticism

Cooper seemed optimistic on the morning show that the White Sox were not doing making moves (it doesn't sound as if he is heavily involved though). Sounds like the Sox still want to add one more reliever to the mix.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 05:38 PM) At 6:00CT With Lawrence Holmes? Ugh.

If they add another starting pitcher, it will probably be a guy coming an injury/bad season. I think most of of their remaining resources will be left to upgrade LF and hopefully 3B.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 09:08 AM) Wonderful. Trade our next Sale for a .614 OPS. Or is it a .724 OPS. And it doesn't even touch on the key need of LF. The "grass is always greener" is growing like mad. I'm not saying they would or should trade Rodon, but a prospect with the ceiling he has, and club control, etc., that's the type of prospect that can probably land (or at least make another team think hard) a premier player.

QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 07:40 AM) Not sure if this deserved a new thread, so feel free to move. But did anyone catch Mully & Hanley this morning (around 7) mention that the Sox are talking to the Rays about Longoria and/or Myers? I can not see the Rays dealing either of them considering they are both under control and good prices for years. But thought it was more than interesting? Rock and/or Bucket are you guys out there? Who is Rick eyeing up now? I still think he has to be after the guy he mentioned they targetted in the 3 team trade at the deadline because I cant think that it would have been Shark. I'm sure a deal around Rodon and Anderson would get TB at least thinking.

QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 07:40 AM) Not sure if this deserved a new thread, so feel free to move. But did anyone catch Mully & Hanley this morning (around 7) mention that the Sox are talking to the Rays about Longoria and/or Myers? I can not see the Rays dealing either of them considering they are both under control and good prices for years. But thought it was more than interesting? Rock and/or Bucket are you guys out there? Who is Rick eyeing up now? I still think he has to be after the guy he mentioned they targetted in the 3 team trade at the deadline because I cant think that it would have been Shark. Myers would probably still cost a ton, but he is coming off a season where injuries impacted him. Not sure if he is willing to sign an extension early in his career like some younger players, but he'd be a great addition in keeping the team built primarily on younger talent.

Probably a 3 way battle in the spring between Sanchez, Garcia, and Johnson. Johnson is clearly the guy they would want to win the job, but he may not be ready. Garcia was not a MLB caliber player this past season, and Sanchez doesn't seem to be anything special. Too many outs still in this lineup, including 2B, 3B, LF and C. This is a position that will have to be addressed from within.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 01:23 PM) https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckGarfien/sta...340460627243008 While I would prefer they don't bring him up until June then so we don't lose a year with him as a reliever, I understand the approach. The White Sox have had success in the past with this, and he would fill a need as well. Obviously, this couldn't be a long-term (more than a season, if that) approach, but if the Sox have a formula that works, they should continue to use with Rodon.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 01:23 PM) https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckGarfien/sta...340460627243008 While I would prefer they don't bring him up until June then so we don't lose a year with him as a reliever, I understand the approach. The White Sox have had success in the past with this, and he would fill a need as well. Obviously, this couldn't be a long-term (more than a season, if that) approach, but if the Sox have a formula that works, they should continue to use with Rodon.

I wouldn't give him away, but then again, his play hasn't exactly inspired a lot of interest. The signing of LaRoche ended his career here. I thought there was an outside chance they could keep him as a DH; given that he can hit for power, that is a commodity that teams can use (including the White Sox) but it seems unlikely that they would bring him back to play regularly in the OF going forward. What's interesting is that they can probably use a somewhat decent 4th OF as well given Eaton's over the top aggression (at times) play, and the change that the eventual new LF isn't a guy who plays 145 games.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2014 -> 11:29 AM) Wayne Randazzo ‏@WayneRandazzo 3m3 minutes ago According to @MLBBruceLevine, Kenny Williams commented to him that resigning from the #WhiteSox is one of many options he's considering. Shame that Bruce Levine had Williams on the radio yesterday, and none of this was known.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2014 -> 11:16 AM) That is my biggest problem with it. Dude is walking away during the busiest time of the year for a front office, complete with the teams entire knowledge and plans. This is a true promotion, not a lateral one. White Sox should allow him to interview.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 05:08 PM) John Danks is owed $29 million. That's the equivalent of ~5 fWAR. If you just assume "He'll do what he did last year" you'd say he's likely to put up just over 1 fWAR, so he's overpaid by about $20-$24 million. In other words, you need a prospect who is at least good enough to put up that amount, with some risk associated with it. I'd say you're talking about a guy at least in the top 10 of our system, probably top 5-6 given the risks associated, to get someone to do that. If you consider that the rotation is likely to include, the below, there does seem to be room for a highly paid pitcher (maybe not Scherzer level), but the 3 out of 5 starters keep the rotation deals more than reasonable. Of course, the rest of the team has to be considered, but outside of Abreu, Ramirez and LaRoche, the team doesn't have have large salaries - Sale - Quintana - Danks - Rodon (maybe not to start the season, but by June) - ?????

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 02:31 PM) I could see them spending 100 mil Interesting, so that could mean, if true, that they have about $25M to play with. Of the approximate $75 million they have spent so far, how many players is that for? So if it's $75 for 11 players (just guessing), how many players from the remaining 14 that will be on the MLB roster to we project to be playing for the minimum?

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 10:13 AM) I'm telling you, we have more payroll and adding a REALLY good RHP to the rotation immediately makes us contenders IMO. Other threads say the White Sox have ~$15M or so to spend to get into the low $90M range. Not sure how much of that ~$15M is for free agents or players making minimum salaries to fill out the roster, but it seems, if that number is right, that the Sox can maybe add another 1 or 2 role player type(s), but they would be up against that 90M fairly quickly. Unless the Sox are looking to spend $110M or so, it's hard to see them competing for any premier free agents.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 02:59 PM) I put us at about $63-$64 million if Arb was offered to Viciedo, which it was. Plus $12 million for Laroche and $4.5 million for Duke puts us at within error of $80 million. $80 Million with how many players of the expected 25 man roster?

Would be strange for the White Sox to give up prospects for a guy who wants 110 million + on a new deal. Would the Sox really move 2 of their better prospects for a 1 year rental assuming he wants to become a free agent?

I'm not sure if this is a good move or not, but I like finding alternatives to paying decent players $15M a season. I have a bad feeling if we take that route, we're going to be stuck with players not worth their contracts and little/no flexibility.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 19, 2014 -> 12:13 PM) Now that we have Zach Duke signed as a LHRP, what do you think Carlos Rodon should do next season? I feel like he would benefit from a reliever role like Sale did, but I know that some of you would want him to start or stay in the minors. What do you think? He may not be brought up until June (if that means his free agency clock is pushed out for another season), but whenever he is on the roster, I expect that he'll start off as a #4 or #5 starter.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 19, 2014 -> 07:42 AM) If Zach Duke is fixed by throwing side arm and changing his pitches, why can't Danks do the same? I'm guessing that not every pitcher is as easily fixed as Duke was. Old habits are hard to break. To be honest, if Danks can pitch close to 200 IP again, as a #5 starter, how does he rank compared to others around the AL? Granted, he was signed to be a #2 or #3 starter, but this is what we have.

Don't like it based on my simple rule of no multi year deals for middle relievers. As good as he was last year, he was awful in 2013, and we know that's pretty common of middle relievers. I just don't have any confidence as to what version of Duke we will get.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 01:41 PM) At least 3, probably 4. Knowing they have at least $40 million to spend this off-season, I'm resigned that they are going to overpay whether it's on middle relievers or veterans past their peak years.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 01:33 PM) I don't like giving any reliever more than 2 years. How many years is Miller likely to get? I'd prefer 1 year deals, but I know that excludes guys like Miller.