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Since he is starting tonight, there's no need to trade him until 31st now. The White Sox are probably unsure of their direction (due to their recent hot streak). Whether that's a good thing or not is probably a bigger question than whether they should trade Samardijia.

He's going to start. If he is traded, the White Sox are holding him until the end of the month.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 06:09 PM) I'd like to see rest of the way: Finish with at least 81 wins Carlos Sanchez lockdown 2B and Saladino 3B Move Shark and EJ show he can be a 4 or 5. Sale win CY Young This offense get going and finish strong Anyone catch Steve Stone over the weekend say that Saladino, he believes, will be the long-term SS? What would that mean for Anderson?

QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 12:40 PM) does anyone think this sounds like a move the sox would do....... i do. Seems unlikely; White Sox typically prefer major league ready talent.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 03:02 PM) They never have detailed it for the media or general public. Hasn't Williams implied that we're in Year 1 of this plan?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 02:48 PM) I want to put something out there, because it seems it isn't as common of knowledge as I thought, but as long as Kenny Williams has been the White Sox GM, and until today, the White Sox have always had a 3 year plan. This isn't a new concept. There have always been stories about writers trying to figure out who is on Kenny's vaunted 3 year board. What is this 3 year plan that Williams mentioned? That's the first time I heard it mentioned. Was Year 1 an aggressive free agent strike then? Any idea what that would mean for this off-season? It sure seems like then went for it this year, and it hasn't worked out (yet). How does resigning Samardzjia (or finding a replacement of similar quality) factor in?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 01:38 PM) Doesn't this mean they're not very involved in the trade discussions for him? Sounds to me like one of two possibilities. 1) The Cubs will come up as being a destination for any quality/upper echelon starting pitcher because they have a great farm system and need another arm. Who knows what the actual truth is to some of these reports. 2) They are just letting teams know they'd like to be part of discussions, but haven't made any significant offers. Teams aren't going to turn the Cubs away, given the amount of prospects that they have and it doesn't hurt to listen.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 01:36 PM) Schwarber+ is a minimum I assume, though a cursory look at some Cub forums has a lot of their fans thinking it can be done for Baez+ There's no way they are going to trade him. I don't think the Cubs are going to make a major move. I think they are more likely to find a veteran/stop-gap type who would help, but wouldn't cost them a premium prospect.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:21 AM) I do like the bad contract swap idea. Danks has been pitching better, but I still think this team is better off with EJ in the 5 spot - so if you can get a bat for him, let's do it. At this point, I'd just be fine with giving Micah Johnson ABs at DH. He'd be a HUGE upgrade to what we're getting there now. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea. Just DL LaRoche, or keep him on the bench for a late inning PH role..he's worthless right now. I don't think that's a horrible idea. Clearly he's ready for the majors as a hitter, but the problem will be that the White Sox view that DH position as a power spot (despite the lack of production La Roche has provided). When the offense is bad, and there's a guy who can help, why not? Does he still project as a 2B or are they considering the OF with him?

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:45 AM) If the Sox are truly back in the Wildcard race, it just proves how pointlessly long the season is, and how utterly meaningless any games before July are. Unless you play like the Phillies, you're never out of the race and no conclusions can be drawn for any pre-July stretch of baseball. I like the 2nd Wildcard, but it does make the 162-game season laughable. On one hand, I hate that the regular season could come down to playing a 1 game wildcard after 162 games, but, on the other, it does add excitement to the season.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:33 AM) That is very exciting. Reminds me a lot of Danks 07 season this year. I think he comes back next year and dominates. Good chance that he comes back next season is at least a #3 quality starter, if not a #2 type with upside to being a legitimate top of the rotation starter.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:22 AM) It would not shock me at all if the White Sox were out looking for major league hitters that they would have on the roster past 2015. Could I see them sniffing around a Josh Hamilton style trade (assloads of cash, and not much in terms of a prospect) for a guy like Pablo Sandoval? Absolutely. I could also see them looking at other 3B's and C's around baseball. It would make sense IF they are sticking to this plan of trying to compete every year instead of taking a step back and building up a minor league system that has sustained success. I just don't know that rebuilding every season on the fly makes a ton of success or has shown to work.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 08:54 AM) it is the excitement of a team, this team in winning, that is deceiving our emotions. then when the trade deadline past, the anger will take over. stay the course, make the necessary changes, as hard it is to do, it is the best in the future. if not, then the changes will need to be done via Free Agency. This team isn't winning; it's won 4 in a row, but the big picture (at least through the end of July) says this is a below average team.

QUOTE (harkness @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:25 AM) I agree with Dick... This series with Boston will determine a lot... I'm thinking the coaching staff might even use this as a motivation (if the players care about being together) If this team wants to stay together it has to keep winning. If they lose the first two in Boston the sale begins. This is probably true; if they lose 3 out of 4, they will sell. I'm not sure what splitting a series means though to how the organization would think.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:06 AM) Here's another thing to take into consideration. The Twins still get to play four more series against the Indians, who some feel pretty much laid down and died this past weekend, which is more or less 21% of their remaining games. Now, there's always a possibility Cleveland wakes up and decides to play spoiler over the final two months...but there's also a very real possibility they go into the tank and end up 12-18 games under .500 as well. So far, Minnesota's 4-2 against the Indians, and they have 7 left to play in CLE, 6 at Target Field. Good point although I still don't trust the Twins down the stretch.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 03:41 PM) After the Cleveland series, this team is definitely not a "seller" anymore. The only question is "are we a buyer?" Do we go out and get a bat? Or do we not mess with the outstanding chemistry this team has developed? I know its dangerous to mess with a roster that is already a World Series contender, but I'd really like to see us add someone who can hit 20 HRs and drive in 50 runs down the stretch. I really think this is the missing link that could insure us the first championship in 10 years. Let's experience the joy of 2005 over again in the coming months! They are 5-5 in their last 10 games. Have things changed that much? When you're playing catch-up, playing .500 ball is probably not the way to do that. They should be sellers, but there isn't much to sell outside of the obvious (Samardzjia).

One thing to remember; this has been a team that has consistently played below .500 ball throughout 90+ games; a winning streak against a Cleveland team (after losing 5 of 6 against good teams) does not (and should not) mean management should come to any irrational thoughts .

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 25, 2015 -> 11:30 PM) Saladino had a couple tough games but bounced back well tonight. I like what I've seen to date, but should I be skeptical of a 25 year old AAA player having any extended staying power?

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 25, 2015 -> 11:55 PM) Interesting that Texas is in the hunt for Hamels. We trail them by 1 game in the L column. Texas has also been rumored to be moving Gallardo; they could be a buy/sell team.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 25, 2015 -> 11:17 PM) Three wins vs. Cleveland don't make us a contender. No. They need to win every game between now and July 31st just to get their management to stay put. With the shuffling of the minor league rotation, it appears they are preparing for a deal to be be made though. This team would need a 20-10 record in August after a 10-2 type run to finish this month. All not happening with this offense, and defense.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 25, 2015 -> 11:07 PM) it all depends on reality or fantasy. i just like to gage it against hou's trade and what is value of a comp pick. Reality is that the Sox will get one decent prospect, and not a team's top 5, maybe not even top 10 within an organziation. That's not to say a 3B prospect couldnt't be a piece the White Sox eventually need, but there are no blue chips or sure things coming back; they should have seen the market for starting pitching and the reality of their own situation back in June or early July.

QUOTE (soxfan85 @ Jul 25, 2015 -> 09:43 PM) Minnesota: Have a gut feeling they will fall from grace Toronto: Can't pitch, aren't that far ahead of US, and want one of OUR top pitchers...why would we help them? One game over .500 Tampa: I have no idea how they are where they are...but they will fall. Under .500 Detroit: Can't pitch. Under .500 Baltimore: The only team that concerns me, but they are 2 games under .500 and supposedly NOT selling but going for it. Texas: We will pass them up. Why not just take a shot at this thing? Still over 2 months to go. They aren't trading their entire roster; you have to have a trading partner, and the only guys would be Samardzija, and maybe a reliever. Obviously, it's hard to compete if you trade Samardzija though. It's hard to see the White Sox making a run either way with this offense. I do think most people on this board are going to be upset by the return that they get for Samardzija so I don't know that trading him is a guarantee if they want to re-sign him (if they feel keeping him makes them a favorite).

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 09:45 PM) The very 1st complete game and Shutout of Q's career deserves a winners thread does it not ? Of course it does ! Melky continues with the hot bat. Abreu hit a HR Alexei 3 hits , 2 RBI 2 SB The King of the No Decision is dead . Too bad the season is over.....in July yet again. Melky took 2 months to figure things out, Alexi appears to be coming around just in time for the last 60 games of the season.... It's depressing. When does football start?

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 06:14 PM) Don't know if anybody has seen these two articles that came out today. I've included the links to them. After reading them the conclusion I come to is that this franchise is in deep, deep trouble. In trouble from a competitive standpoint, in trouble from an attendance standpoint, in trouble from a rating / viewer standpoint and in trouble from a perception / relevance standpoint. (Notice however I didn't say from a financial standpoint...) Overall it appears to me this franchise hasn't been this bad off since the late 80's when they were threatening to move to Florida. Just look where the Sox rank TV-wise in the two graphs: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/new-numbers...n-not-imminent/ "This isn’t just a bad group of position players, it is arguably one of the worst collections of position players ever assembled." http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-impress...te-sox-offense/ Mark The offense is so bad, it's hard to sit here and pretend that everyone is just having a down season, etc; the entire IF outside of 1B is in need of an overhaul and the OF is probably not going to change. It's just hard to see this team getting much better in the near future without adding 2 impact players (IF positions) to the middle of the lineup.

QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 11:05 PM) The real question is how one could spend time on a White Sox forum about the White Sox and not know the prospect status of Tim Anderson. A very difficult question, indeed. Seeing as how you have the entire internet at your disposal, you could take five minutes out of your life to check Anderson's stats, read his scouting report, and maybe even watch a little film rather than asking anonymous message board posters, expecting them to answer, and taking their word for it if they do answer. Amazing that there would be so much drama created by simply asking White Sox fans, on a pretty dedicated forum, a question that most could answer in their sleep. I don't have much time to search around; I was in this thread where one of the subjects was Tim Anderson. Shockingly, I asked a question about him that I could have found elsewhere; by that measure, no other questions should be asked, and opinions without factual evidence are banned.