southsider2k5

Personally I think they worked out in their minds how to play baseball. I think they shoot for 162 games, and try to figure out how to have some sort of a minor league season. There will be kinks for sure, but they will try.

Do they try? Without a doubt. Will it succeed? No idea.

That is chilling. I had no idea about, but yes, I would rather see the Sox move on from Boston. If that is even partially kind of true, it is not something the team should be associated with.

If the primary goal of hiring a manager is to satisfy Cubs fans and the media, we have already lost.

Even better.

I've never heard about this. Is there something out there about it?

https://www.futuresox.com/2020/10/12/rick-hahn-addresses-concerns-over-kopech-provides-updates-on-crochet-lambert-and-madrigal/

I see a big difference between trying to win so hard you cheat and flat out quitting on the franchise that made you millions.

Yeah, as easy as it is to slip back to the safety net of the "same old White Sox" memes, the reality is since the day we traded Chris Sale to Boston, things have been completely different. I don't know if it was a shifting of the guard from the KW way to the RH way, or all of the new people that have been brought into the organization of the last 5 years, but things are not the same. How many "The Sox will never"'s have we destroyed in the last few years?

I think we need a poll decide what the poll items for this poll should be.

I am going to parse this and first state that you are 100% wrong in your assessment here. Cheating has always been a part of baseball, even when there are rules against it. Pine tar, spit balls, sign stealing, steroids, speed, pitch tipping pitch framing, etc. When caught people pay their price, and then move on. Cheating to win has always been a part of baseball culture, and while penalized, it is something that has never, and will never go away. The argument has always been how much "cheating" is OK, how much cheating is going to get you in trouble, and how much cheating will get you in a LOT of trouble. Pete Rose didn't get banned for cheating. He got banned for betting on baseball. THIS has always been the thing to get you a lifetime ban. This goes back to the Black Sox. Playing to LOSE will also get you the ban treatment. Neither of those things happened here. The closest thing Pete Rose did was to tip off the professional gambling world to when he WASN'T willing to bet on his own team. But what he did was ALWAYS known to be a bannable offense. He also followed up his stupidity by flat out lying about it, and being proven a liar even when MLB seemed to be giving him an opening to get out of his mistakes. He might not have gotten banned if he had fessed up when he got this chance. Now we can definitely sit and argue all day about how bad Hinch's role was in all of this, if his punishment was appropriate and if the Sox should touch him as a manager. But what happened with Pete Rose is not an equitable item to what Hinch did.

I would want to wait to see how free agency goes, does spring training happen normally, and will there be a MiLB season before guessing at that one. My guess in general would be if he signs an early extension, he opens the season on the roster, and if he doesn't he spends some time not on the major league roster to start the season.

Yep. There were some urine down the legs moments from the relievers we really needed to step up at that time.

You can almost hear Rick Hahn's thought process. "All right, I will give Ozzie a call, and then put it out there so that I don't have to get a bunch of questions from someone who we were never going to hire again. It also should keep the fans imaginations from running wild and causing problems for something that will never happen. [AJ Pierzynski starts politicking for the job.] "SONOFAB...."

Uh if you give James McCann $19 million for next year, he will take it in a heartbeat and laugh all of the way to the bank.

Most of these things aren't safe, aren't necessary, and definitely aren't being done safely. It is the incremental strategy that is killing people in the US. But business is more important than lives here, so on we go.

To follow up, AJ is campaigning for the wrong job. He has a much better chance of replacing Steve Stone than he does being our manager.

He's the dude who walks the line, right?

To be fair, Hinch was immediately rewarded for his cheating... he just eventually paid for it.

Because Robert plays one of the best CFs in baseball, and Engel played a really good RF when he was there. Robert is the guy who is going to be starting out their for the next decade, so no need to jerk him around.

Not gonna happen.

3rd wave? Nah, the first wave never ended.

MLB doesn't want dead people on their watch. It isn't difficult. Why waste lives on a sport?