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That's a pretty big contract to call a value added.

Houser could easily go the route of being a 40 grade pitcher again next year.

If they were going to not give him a serious chance in the majors, yes.

Every opportunity? It was a few assorted and inconsistent starts at the MLB level.

There it is.

His value now isn't honestly much in question. The real question is why did we pass on all of the other windows when it was higher.

It is the Soxtalk way.

The excuses are even being pre-made for the deadline, even though everyone can see it coming.

Honestly, this franchise is so far away, who cares if the rosters aren't balanced. BPA, regardless of position. Sure if you can get OFs of similar value, do that first, but if not, take SPs, we need them too.

Hagen's decine scares me more than the others. We had people last year talking about him being on the major league roster THIS YEAR. He doesn't have the Schultz excuse of not having pitched deep into games before either. Dude just literally lost the ability to control the baseball.

Especially because he defense has been questioned since the day he was drafted. It's not like got her and Sax'd it up. If you intend him to play somewhere else at the major league level, let him learn it the minors along the way. Even a couple of days a week at 3B would have been something.

I will even go as far as to say I would rather them get back pitching, vs a dude with 4 years of control as a primary piece.

Duh.

More specifically in my case, it is dudes who are unknown commodities now, but could explode on to the scene in the near future, with the connotation of being super young and low level players.

Lenyn Sosa is the least likely of the four to be a future starter, so plug him in AFTER what is best for the guys in front of him. DH/1B, hell get him a LF glove, it isn't like Benny is doing anything positive out there anyway.

I would even sort of understand taking on a Vientos type pitchern who had high expectations but disappointed to some extent, because we do actually seem to have a magic touch as an organization there. But we don't even have that history with hitters.

This is how I see it. It isn't even like the dude who is playing SS is some incredible defensive whiz and/or long term stud for the Sox anyway. Chase is a total future 2b or utility guy.

And if you saw him as a 3B, just play him there in the minors so he get the reps there. Why wouldn't you have him learn this at an easier level?

#1, I have yet to see the Sox be the type of team to fix a dude like this long term, but even if you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, he is over two years of service time. There is no way this dude is on our next playoff team if he is fixed. So now we are back to trading him in two years to hope we find the next guy. #2, The Mets are another team loaded with some really interesting super young talent. I would much rather see them do some scouting on some of those international players and take lottery tickets they like vs a guy with two years of service. The vast majority of the Sox potential offensive talent is going to be here for 2/3/4 years anyway, so why do we need a dude who doesn't fit that window? If they don't want to give up their middle minors guys, look at the DSL signings and see if you can make something happen out of those 22/23/24 class signings.

This is apparently the part where I claim credit for people coming around to what I had been previously saying. #Team2030.

Whoever we get for Robert is BY FAR the best chance, which we all know isn't going to be great. I think we all know the return is going to be ugly.

I have zero expectations of anyone we get at this trade deadline making it as a future starter for the Chicago White Sox.

I mean, it's about diminishing expectations for the fan base, and minimizing the fact that this was not the only time that Robert could have been traded. For example we do also have the Reds offer reporting from over the winter that had the Sox getting two top guys for Robert if they had been willing to kick in, but if you can turn this into hating this return, it's just Sox fans being irrational, again, because obviously they were never going to get more.

Yeah, that's what I don't get. What happens in the little bit of extra time of waiting that was supposed to be better for a Robert trade return? If the expectation isn't that the offers will get better (you know, like Dylan Cease being traded while he value is down after a down year from his career year), why are you waiting? I am still not sure what waiting an extra six months to year does for his trade return. I mean if I am understanding the vagueness of the answers here, I am being told that Luis Robert was worth 100 million dollars, but we were only get back say $90 million in return, but if we waited six months until his worth fell to $90 million, making that same deal was now OK, because it balances. If that is the case, and you don't expect his return to go UP during that time period, what are you waiting for, exactly? Peak value is peak value.

Please. Free to a home.