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If he is good enough to decline a qualifying offer, he is good enough to get traded before the deadline. At the very least, he would be good enough to pick up the option on, and then try to trade over the winter.

One of the most interesting things he said in here was the phrase "free agent signings" which would be "tolerated".

Speaking of rebranding.

Which you also have if you pay him a million dollars less AND preserve the QO by not offering it to him this year.

Or he sees this a chance to do a one year rebound deal with a bigger salary and we get nothing at all for him.

Why would you decline a $20 million option to offer someone MORE in a QO?

But an up and coming team didn't have him. It was the White Sox.

Fair? The Sun Times is running a business. This harkens back to whoever it was who used to measure by the inch the press coverage in the Tribune back in the day. If Sox fans don't buy papers, why would the Sun Times invest in the Sox? Do they have to carry full embedded reporters for all sports, including womens? I mean that is "fair" right? Make sure each team gets exactly as much coverage, and no one teams gets the headlines too often, right? Bears one day, Sky the next? Nah. They are going to invest in what sells papers.

It's a "load" all right.

That's why some of us want the roster building to include as many long term fringe guys as possible instead of washed up utility players with no control. Even if your hit rate is low, finding anyone who you can turn into long term depth is huge.

Stone has been the biggest problem in the booth for a decade.

That's been the story on him since he was drafted. High floor innings eater, but mid rotation ceiling.

That baller .325 OBP.

Sure, but because of that history, writers felt an obligation to have standards here. Now that is gone.

I just read up at who was pushing Rose's cause. Yeah, Manfred is a coward and caved, and this was his trying to pretend it wasn't just because he got pressure on Pete. Manfred is a total spineless b****.

Honestly, until I hear otherwise, I am going to assume there were politicians behind this.

Shadow banned for the same reason's that Rose and Jackson were. Integrity of the game.

If I had a nickel for everytime this has come up recently, well I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice. But past that, again, tell me how to market this mess to a notorious fickle, angry, and fair weather fan base? The only thing Sox fans care about is winning.

Open it up to the steroid era too then. If we aren't going to have standards, don't have any at all.

This was not even the most complete changes of the past 45 years, so no, I can't take you seriously here. They do this WE'VE CHANGED thing about once a decade. Hell, Jerry has ran off Hall of Famers in the past. The Hemond/Harrelson/Himes/Schuler era was a civil war. Guys like Dombrowski and Evans being shoved out too. This is a blip on the radar compared to those days. But back to the actual central theme, until Jerry leaves, this is just more people telling Jerry what he wants to hear getting promoted, telling the same stories we have already heard. I have even posted links to Rick Hahn and Chris Getz saying the exact same things that you are here telling us today. Again, the last real house cleaning was 1980, not 2023.

The first house cleaning in 45 years? Good lord man. I hope you don't believe this stuff.

1980

I am just happy to hear a shred of optimism about a top guy.

Maybe eventually you will get the hint and move on.