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It is 43 days of service I believe (1/4 of a season). He got 30.

Bravo. Mega+1.

Please?

I mean we don't tell him how to make Whoppers now do we?

And the creation of relievers is changing. Especially at the college level pitchers are being converted without being failed starters because of the growing emphasis and number of pen innings being used at that level. Because of their importance as relievers, these guys are spending 3 years in college as relievers and coming into the minors as such. With minor and major league pen needs, many of those pitchers are staying in the pen instead of being moved back as starters. It is my personal opinion that the White Sox feel player valuations for these players may not have caught up on a level commiserate to other minor league prospect valuations as they relate to their major league counterparts. In short major league relievers are really expensive while the minors ones have no real value. The Sox have been able to stockpile a ton of these guys. If they are able to pick up a guy like Ryan Burr for half a million in Intl cap space and then turn him into a middle to late inning reliever that is a huge surplus value. It is also one that could bring back a big time prospect if the Sox were to decide to move said reliever with three or four years of control down the road. For example if a Vieira turns into a Kahnle down the road, we could turn a small amount of international cap space into either a big time set up guy, or a top 100 prospect. That is a huge value gain.

Traded for Dioner Navarro in a deadline deal a few years back. Hasn't really done anything, in fact fell from AAA to AA at some point.

Two words. Courtney Hawkins.

This bears quoting just to be shown again in this thread.

They don't care enough to go, but they sure care enough to seek out places to complain about not wanting to go.

Putting the ass in class with this post.

20 /= 3

There are not going to be 20ish players who sign for 300k.

Which left how much space left over?

The White Sox trend of bringing in loads of minor league high ceiling relievers is a super interesting trend for me. Historically relieving in the minors has been near zero value. But with the trend of less and less IP out of your SP are the Sox actually playing Moneyball thing and picking up value by bringing in these players? There is no question that relievers on the trade market at the major league level have more value than ever. The other thing is that the White Sox are always willing to deal relievers for position player prospects. If the Sox are either able to build a pen of these kinds of pieces and/or able to turn these guys into position player prospects in the future, they build an extra source of prospect depth it is a huge lift to the sustainability of this build in the future.

Yeah, this is nuts.

Honestly if he is going on the 40 this fall, you might as well think about him now if we trade Avilan in the next few days.

Pft, facts.

This. The rush to waste assets is mind boggling. In this specific case, the kid needs inning. His career IP total is Similar to Michael Kopech and Dylan Cease. Pump the breaks a bit on dumping kids for pretty reasons.

All hail Rick Hahn.