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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 9, 2017 -> 12:12 PM) Didn't Groce just have his best recruiting class? If he is launched are they firmly committed? That is what I would be worried about. I know Tilman waivered for a while. If Groce is out, does he reopen his recruiting process? I could see it.

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 9, 2017 -> 11:47 AM) I know everyone is down on Mateo but I think he is someone that could easily be tried in CF and becomes a less risky prospect. This is where you have to trust your scouts and development people.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 9, 2017 -> 10:56 AM) Great, great article! Very impressive how well Jimmy was able to summarize a pretty complex situation. Well done! Agreed. That was one of the most intelligent write ups I have seen on the topic.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 9, 2017 -> 11:08 AM) I felt the same haha Sox scouts are likely everywhere. Kinda seems like a non-news story. We've known they've been connected for a while. Of course they are targeting the teams with the best farm systems. I mean they would be negligent to not.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Mar 9, 2017 -> 10:58 AM) Notes untouchables. I personally am warming to Frazier and Rutherford as headliners. They are untouchable today, but I get the feel that would change if they thought he was going somewhere like Boston, for example.

Um, duh.

QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 9, 2017 -> 10:25 AM) Aaron Leming‏Verified account @AaronLemingNFL 8s8 seconds ago More #Bears deal for Mike Glennon will be 3/$45M w/ $19M guaranteed. Pretty much a 1 year commitment w/ little penalty if cut in year 2. Glad the upfront money isn't as bad as it could be.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 9, 2017 -> 09:44 AM) Rodon likely isn't making a start until 5th or 6th game (per Levine). I expect him to start on dl and for them to carry an extra reliever (break camp with 4 starters and 8 or 9 relievers sending one down when Rodon starts 5th game?). When does the DL open up, and will it leave time for that to work?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 9, 2017 -> 09:01 AM) Could be bad news for Everth Cabrera? He is likely filler/bench player and plays more positions. I think the worst news for Everth Cabrera, is that he is still Everth Cabrera.

MLB Trade Rumors‏ @mlbtraderumors 3h3 hours ago Brett Lawrie Not Yet Ready To Pursue New Contract http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/03/brett-lawrie-not-yet-ready-pursue-new-contract.html …://http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/...contract.html …

Tom Quinlan‏ @DHTomQuinlan 6h6 hours ago Rest assured, #WhiteSox rebuild has only just begun, writes @BarryRozner http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20170307/sports/170309099/ …://http://www.dailyherald.com/article/...ts/170309099/ … via @dailyherald

670 The Score‏Verified account @670TheScore 2h2 hours ago #Blackhawks activate Niklas Hjalmarsson from injured reserve http://cbsloc.al/2nfKyQv

MLB‏Verified account @MLB 2h2 hours ago After elbow scare at start of #SpringTraining, @DAVIDprice24 is feeling “better by the day.” http://atmlb.com/2m08aaL

Vincent Goodwill‏Verified account @vgoodwill 1h1 hour ago Wade is out, Rondo is playing. Hoiberg won't officially rule Butler as a go, but one would expect him to play

670 The Score‏Verified account @670TheScore 41m41 minutes ago Todd Frazier makes spring debut for White Sox, says he's back to full health http://cbsloc.al/2mn6oE0 via @MLBBruceLevine

CSN Chicago‏Verified account @CSNChicago 34m34 minutes ago #WhiteSox eyeing fifth or sixth game of season for Carlos Rodon's first start: http://bit.ly/2mHxl6f (@JJStankevitz) #WhiteSoxTalk

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 8, 2017 -> 03:19 PM) I can't believe we are beating this horse 3+ months later. This is Soxtalk. There are people beating 40 year old horses.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 8, 2017 -> 03:16 PM) I never mentioned Benitendi. I'm just mentioning Moncada. Yes, the cost is sunk but it's like they paid in advance. Most teams wouldn't trade Yoan Moncada away even for Chris Sale had they invested the money in him, he wasn't a big flop and is maybe a year, if that, from contrubting, and many evaluators see him as a future star. Who knows, maybe if Benitendi struggled in 30 ABs and Moncada looked really good during his September call up, Benitendi is a White Sox. It could be Moncada being questionable at best to be a contributor in 2017 was what DD was looking at. He's never met a prospect he couldn't trade, and this trade pretty much proved it. The interesting thing is that all of the cost isn't sunk. Boston is still picking up some later piece of the signing bonus.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 8, 2017 -> 02:37 PM) There have been several players that skipped AAA, but he does need to go down for more seasoning and repeating AA doesn't really make sense. There are players that have skipped AAA, but those tend to be more polished and older players.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 8, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) That's the thing. I wonder if the Sox played the hardball with this deal some wanted how they would feel if the trade wasn't made and it was reported they could have received the same 4 players for him. It's almost assured some of these guys will fail, and some lesser Red Sox prospects will have some success at some point. So the argument the Sox could have received more is probably valid, at least in a future performance sense. In the sense it would affect their prospect rankings, we will never know most likely. Also keep in mind that the Eaton deal was being finished up and negotiated at almost exactly the same time. What happens to the public view of this stuff if ONLY the Eaton deal had gotten done? How about if Boston drops out and Sale goes to the Nationals, but the Eaton trade doesn't happen?

I said this a few pages back, but how long would people have been willing to keep negotiating with Boston over this deal, and would they have been OK with it collapsing because of asking too much if that had been the case? Keep in mind, we had two other deals collapse over the winter at the ownership level.

The NFL is only surpassed by the NBA in terms of bad money for bad players.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Mar 8, 2017 -> 09:18 AM) Although I also believe they could've gotten Groome over say Diaz, the fact that the Eaton deal probably never materializes right after seals it for me. I highly doubt they'd get those guys if Eaton was dealt first before Sale. I have 0 issues with the Sale return. I really like Basabe as a prospect. Add in the other 2 with a wildcard in Diaz? Holy s***. This is an interesting thought. I wonder how much thought was given to the entire package for the two players (Sale/Eaton) because we know that if Sale is dealt to Washington, they don't get the Eaton package for sure. I wonder if the combination of deals is what did it?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 8, 2017 -> 09:37 AM) I think Soto and Bourjos are basically on the team. I'd say those two are givens.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 8, 2017 -> 09:04 AM) Moncada/Kopech/Devers/Diaz = Slam Dunk Moncada/Kopech/Basabe/any of Dalbec, Swihart, Travis/Diaz = Very Nice Moncada/Kopech/Basabe/Diaz = Decent That's how I see it. I agree with Jose Abreu above. They didn't do terrible but they could've done better. What makes people think this was available? Secondly, how long would you have been willing to wait out the Red Sox to try to get this? It essentially took from the trading deadline to the GM meetings to arrive at this deal.