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Yeah in these legal hypotheticals, you can also go completely to the opposite side and say since she wasn't found guilty of libel/slander, she obvious didn't lie because she was never found guilty of it. That's not accurate either though. Not being able to prove something happened with a confidence level that is high enough to work for what MLB was looking for, doesn't mean it didn't happen, they are innocent, exonerated, or anything else. It just means they didn't mean MLB's threshold for assigning a penalty. That's it. Especially since it seems like the most likely scenario is that they didn't get cooperation out a witness who had a disincentive to make sure that this guy never worked again.

It's hard to find clear data, but the 2022 estimate was $60 million from their local tv deal. I would be surprised if we sit at 10% of that right now.

The stuff has never been in question. He has to find health.

Divided by 30 teams, that covers Tauchman and Bryse Wilson for the White Sox.

Oops.

I will quote my favorite phrase... those who don't learn from their history are doomed to repeat it. But sure, let's pretend this never happened and everything is fine.

Of course the other side of the coin is that the White Sox wounds are entirely self-inflicted.

I do, and I still stand by it. Just because the Sox and Reds are cheap, doesn't change Roberts value on the open market.

Ah fun. I guess we could also mention the Cease and Quintana deals as risk/reward payoffs, but Captain Panic operations aren't a big surprise.

You mean Robert? Moncada is already gone.

This is going to be a financially interesting season. On paper, the Sox haven't turned a profit since 2019, which is the first time in Forbes recorded history, that has ever happened. We will see what 2024 looks like when the numbers are released here towards the beginning of the season. Right now the Sox basically have zero TV revenue on the books. They have a couple of small deals in place, but no anchor deals to speak of. That is a large chunk of revenues right there. They are also about to put up their smallest attendance year year this century. They put up 1.338m through the turnstiles in 1999. They had 1.38 last year. If they go below the 1999 number, their next lower number happened in 1989 when they barely cleared a million. This will probably be a 36 year low for attendance and the lowest ever at the new ballpark. I am sure everything else attached to revenues is going to be at multi-decade lows as well once you account for parking dollars, advertising dollars, concessions, etc.

Without knowing the rest of the deal, I would fall here. If we are talking Arroyo and not much else? Eh. If you are getting another headliner like Collier and/or Stewart, plus a wild card or two? Do it. It's a sunk cost.

Jacob Gonzalez 139 Bryan Ramos 171 Jairo Iriarte 192 Grant Taylor 198 Chase Meidroth 199

It's the same things that we have all been talking about. Regressions and depth.

Law ranks the Sox farm system 12th overall, as a part of what he calls "tier 3". Both Cleveland (5) and Detroit (7) ranked ahead of the Sox. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6094581/2025/01/30/mlb-farm-system-rankings-2025/?source=emp_shared_article

We do seem to have a type.

The Sox seem to view Robert as a salary dump? Awesome.

They both seem to have one thing in common that kills them both, cowardice management and ownership which won't allow them to make the moves they need to sustain winning for anything resembling a prolonged period of time. Just like the Sox position player development, Baltimore hasn't been able to develop pitching and their management has been afraid to acquire the guys the really need to fill those holes.

But apparently they do scour it to find other people to shame.

It would so awful to be like Baltimore and coming off of multiple seasons in a row in the playoffs with one of the youngest offenses in the game. Those poor fans.

Unless you really think that Colson Montgomery is going to be a failure, a 1/2 year deal doesn't fit what is happening here at all. The only way that changes if Monty isn't your guy and you use Kim as a bridge/trade bait to something else.

If they want to send real prospects for the Sox to do it, they should absolutely listen to the pitch. They still need PLENTY of position player prospects.

But you don't need to spend on that level to compete. Teams all over baseball prove that every year. Cheap AND stupid is the killer.