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QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 07:06 PM) Someone mentioned the Tigers and being in contract hell but they failed to mention The Tigers also: Won the division or made the playoffs four years in a row Went to the World Series twice Have an owner with more money than God. What does he care about the size and length of those deals? He'll just go out and spend more to replace those guys. From Detroit's standpoint based on the results I have to think they feel it was completely worth it. Mark The irony is the Tigers are going through the past peak of the cycle. They are a few years away from being where the White Sox were in 2013, except with a ton more bad contracts. I know Dave Dombrowski is supposed to be a genius, but he left a cesspool of a twin disaster in Detroit of bad contracts and no farm system at all.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 07:11 PM) Nope. He was an above average defensive shortstop 2 years ago and an acceptable one last year. There's little to suggest he couldn't handle third base. I'm not arguing that Hanley's without warts or even that this is the best solution. More arguing against dumb counterarguments at this point. With a team that has been deficient offensively and in need of upgrades at least somewhere, and with a glut of middle infield options under control, and with the virtual non-existence of catchers who can hit, so far I've seen the suggestion of no human who could/should play 3rd base for the White Sox in 2016 other than Tyler Saladino. Anybody who is smart and often has interesting things to say have any other possible thoughts? Eminor? Anyone? Yes there is. He doesn't want to. He is lazy and has no interest at working at getting better in LF, why would 3B be different?

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 1h1 hour ago And on the day Dave Dombrowski arrives, the #RedSox admit blowing $9.5 million on FA Justin Masterson, and release him.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 03:33 PM) His line is pretty much on par with his career batting averages He hasn't put up an OPS/OPS+ this high since 2010.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 03:28 PM) It is not fair to assume that Soto would necessarily keep up his production if playing more frequently, being exposed to less favorable matchups, etc. I think Soto has played well enough that if he was physically more able to play every day, he'd probably be getting more playing time Especially because his history tells us that this year is probably a fluke or a product of being used in better match ups. Pick one.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 03:21 PM) Soto's OBP is nearly .100 points higher, if you use his HR/PA conversion over the same amounts of AB's as Flowers he projects for 14 HR at this point, and on Fangraphs he is rated higher defensively, which matches the eye test for me as well. Tyler's lateral movement is horrible whereas Soto can be fairly quick behind the plate. Not to mention literally all of the WAR produced by Sox catchers comes from Soto, Flowers is negative. Like I said, if you take a whole picture view, versus just picking out one stat and trying to represent it in the worst possible way you get different results. It is also worth pointing out that things like pitch framing and calling have zero analytics behind them right now, and they for sure aren't included in WAR. If nothing else the fact that the best pitchers on the staff are pretty much exclusively throwing to Flowers has some value to it. You just can't throw out OPS and one stat on pitch framing and declare Soto better. If Soto really had that kind of value, he wouldn't have been a left over for a minor league deal with as bad as the catching situation is around baseball right now. I think honestly the reason he has had a good year is Robin has found him good spots to get him into games in addition to his regular turns with Samardjiza.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 03:01 PM) Some one posted that Flowers pitch framing turns like 1.89 balls into strikes per game and Soto's turns 1.09 balls into strikes. So you're playing Flowers for his pitch framing when he turns 1 extra ball a game into a fcking strike over Soto while Soto has a .818 OPS and 1.5 WAR for Flowers .608 OPS and -0.1 WAR. It isn't just framing. It is all of the defensive components, including pitch calling. And I am sure if you took and boiled it down the same way for offensive stats, it would look remarkably similar. For example, Soto's .248 average vs Flowers .217 average means Soto gets 0.09 (based on 3.1 PA/G) hits per game more than Tyler. Looks really small when you present it that way, versus looking at it as almost 50% more.

The idea when the Angels claimed him was that he was just going to be a space holder anyway. This really isn't a big surprise.

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 3m3 minutes ago Miami, FL word seems to be that LAA could be a preference for utley, a SoCal (long beach) product whose lefty bat would help them.

Anyone else want to pay the Jared's Pants Dance? http://www.salon.com/2015/08/19/jared_from...dium=socialflow

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 2h2 hours ago Dombrowski, believes #RedSox were easily the best opportunity, choosing them over #Mariners, #Nats and #BlueJays. http://usat.ly/1Lke5C6

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 22m22 minutes ago Sources: Utley situation with #Phillies coming to head. Trade possible today.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 01:04 PM) I finished Killing Patton the other night. Far from an in-depth research biography but interesting nonetheless. I knew he died shortly after the war in a pretty unlucky accident. I did not know that a lot of people seem to think it was an assassination, and there's some compelling facts supporting that claim. Brad Meltzer did a pretty good episode on his on one of his history channel shows.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 11:31 AM) How is he definitely a Hahn guy? He is just another internal promotion, like re-arranging chairs on the Titanic. Besides the Hahn stuff, he isn't really an "internal" guy. He cut his teeth in the Braves organization. I don't know about you, but I am ok with bringing in guys from the Braves and promoting them.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 11:33 AM) I thought that he only had to go on the 40 man roster, not the 25 man. I thought the only way he would have to pass through waivers would be if he is out of options. My assumption would be that he is out of options, no?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 11:18 AM) I still fail to see how the past offseason created inflexibility in regards to the framework of this team over the next few years. The whole purpose of the direction they took was to balance today with tomorrow. While I was not a fan of the LaRoche signing, it won't cripple us. The other deals are not blocking anyone who's knocking down the door at Charlotte, with the possible exception of Johnson, who can be brought up in less than 2 weeks. I just can't understand why the fact that they took a shot on '15 and missed has some devastating consequences for '16 and '17. Totally this.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 09:44 AM) Always been a KW fan, mainly because I like to see my team try to win every year. But it just hasn't worked, now going on quite some time. Take the job, Kenny. Kenny wanted to. Jerry wouldn't let him interview.

Honestly, all of them gave some great answers. I was really impressed that none of them really seemed to give room service answers, and instead were all really thoughtful.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 09:40 AM) The footlongs aren't even $5 in the big house. Enjoy Jared. If he was into footlongs, he wouldn't be in this mess. Problem seems to be he likes checking out the kids menu.

This is the next book I am buying. http://www.amazon.com/Illustrated-Book-Bad...asap_bc?ie=UTF8

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 09:22 AM) Maybe the White Sox don't think he's good enough to succeed in the Big Leagues. If he's not brought up in September I'm expecting him to be moved in a trade this off season. I am going to predict he is brought up, but it used in a spot starter role in very specific situations. Unless someone is injured, we aren't seeing a 6 man rotation, nor are we seeing someone being pulled from the roation.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 07:59 AM) You can't claim a guy who's been DFA'd and then stick him in AAA. If you claim him, he has to go on the ML roster. Correct, you would have to expose him to waivers again.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Aug 18, 2015 -> 09:39 PM) The Dodgers didn't mind his baseball hitting. So much so, the deepest wallets in baseball let him walk away...

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 19, 2015 -> 07:29 AM) Too active of an imagination. Sox are in no position not to trust him, no position to trade young pitching. They should be more concerned with their own flawed thinking. Eh. When you have followed a team for as long and as detailed as I have, you learn to read the tea leaves. With all of the different one day call up opportunities, he never got called up. To me it means something. It could just mean they are leaving him down as long as possible to build confidence, who knows.

As quiet as they were about Johnson last year, and as many chances as they have had to call him up, I really think there is a reason we don't know about that we haven't seen him. My guess is that they don't trust him.