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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) On how many war memorials does Germany proudly fly the Nazi flag? Considering it is illegal, I am going with not many.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) Hah, I realize that. But still, minus Longoria, that Rays team looks an awful lot like a AAA club. Its unreal what they've done to this point. The Rays have had the 180 degree difference of the White Sox season.

Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 19s20 seconds ago #WhiteSox for 6/22: Eaton 8, Garcia 9, Abreu 3, Cabrera 7, LaRoche DH, Ramirez 6, Beckham 5, Soto 2, Sanchez 4. Danks vs. Milone.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 03:29 PM) Done? As in Hahn will be done as GM of the White Sox? That doesn't get Sale by himself. And forget all of this flipping stuff. Every time the Sox make a bad trade, I hear "they're going to flip him." Sox don't flip. Nobody flips. Considering the Sox have been involved in more than a few three way deals over the past few years (BOS/DET/SOX, TOR/STL/SOX, ANA/AZD/SOX) that isn't really accurate. The Sox are a team that this is fair to use this type of deal as speculation.

For my two cents, if Bryant isn't in a deal, I see no way possible for the Cubs to get Sale. You have got to be getting a ready made, or young and established superstar type player for him. If Bryant isn't in the deal, you aren't getting anyone with superstar potential. Star potential, sure. But it give up Sale, it has to be a guy who people see as the second coming. Bryant is that guy. The other side of the coin is the Cubs aren't going to be willing to do that. That is why a deal like this never gets done, and is a waste of time for all but guys trying to fill air time... like Chris Rongey.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 02:31 PM) What are you talking about? Or whom? Someone spelling Reinsdorf with two F's.

If you are a nature person, or hiker, get out to Red Rock Canyon. It is a half hour from the strip, and worth the trip.

If we picked up Stalin Castro in a deal for John Danks for some unforseen miracle, we wouldn't keep him. He'd be dealt to another team who actually needs a SS, and we'd reload prospects.

Also worth noting that while he didn't bet against the Reds, for as often as he bet FOR the Reds, if he wasn't betting for them, there is a decent chance it was a signal to his bookies to bet against them, even if Rose didn't.

That is really interesting, yet not surprising at all. The only time Rose every admitted to anything was when overwhelming evidence was in his face. Then would come the crocodile tears and confession, plus a book. I am sure he will change his tune about betting as a player too, along with another tearful apology.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 12:25 PM) I know, it makes zero sense but then again we are talking about cub fans. Honestly, I wouldn't even trade Danks for Castro. In fact, there's nothing the cubs could do or say to get me to trade for Castro. The guy is a complete bonehead and would be one of those idiots that smiles after he makes a game changing error. Nope, cub fans are stuck with that guy. I can't even put the words together to respond.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 12:10 PM) Wait, Sox fans aren't interested in an over paid lackadaisical regressing short stop? If you trade Chris Sale or Jose Quintana, why in the world would you want Starlin Castro?

QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 10:30 AM) He's 25. Shouldn't he be the #5 instead of Carroll? I hope that he's not one of those 4-A players. Keep him in Charlotte and let him pitch every 5th day.

QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 10:33 AM) Was that Levine asking the question? I could not tell but it sounded kind of like him. It was.

Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 7m7 minutes ago Erik Johnson named International League pitcher of the week. Struck out 20 in 14 innings over two starts. Is 6-5 with 3.00 ERA. #WhiteSox Charlotte Knights ‏@KnightsBaseball 14m14 minutes ago Congrats to RHP Erik Johnson -- who was named as the IL Pitcher of the Week. He went 2-0 with 0.00 ERA in two starts (14.0 IP, 20 SO).

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 10:00 AM) Makes sense, I did not know they received a discount there. For some reason I thought he got slot. He got $200k vs $213,400. But more accurately I used the term "discount" to mean what he got this year versus what he would have gotten in the 2nd or 3rd round for a bonus. If he had been our 2nd round pick, he would have gotten $1.25 million for slot. That is a literal million dollar discount. Versus a 3rd round slot, the Sox saved $600,000 for Hickman.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 09:55 AM) Yep. Maybe something like Casto, Schwarber, Almora and another top 6-8 guy in the Cubs system, plus a top 5 guy in all of baseball from another team would get the Sox listening. But, as you know, Sale isn't going anywhere. To land him, you'd have to clear out a top 5 farm system, and I don't think that is going to happen. Absolutely. The idea of Chris Sale leaving the White Sox is ridiculous. The only way that happens is if Chris Sale publicly campaigns to leave, and then it is still a maybe.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 09:46 AM) Castro and a top 5 prospect is nowhere near enough to land Sale. I wasn't clear on that. I mean another prospect, as in, more than one top notch BA prospect... Such as a top guy from the Cubs, plus a top guy from another team to get Castro, and then we can talk about another piece or two to finish the deal.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 08:09 AM) This most likely explains how they got a 2nd/3rd round talent in round 7 for $200,000. It's fine. Basically the equation becomes would you pay $200,000 and wait a year to get a million dollar pitcher? Remember, the Sox second round pick had a slot of around $1.25 million. Hickman could have been picked there. At their third round pick, his slot value would have been about $800k. In a case where the Sox had neither a 2nd or 3rd round pick, this is an investment that makes sense for the Sox. They got a discount for a 2nd round pick to be named later basically.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 12:35 AM) Adams stretching his arm out and throwing strikes is what's really important here. He's just 19 and a ways to go so there's no need to rush or cast him off as a bust. Growing pains is all. Look at it this way. Adams went tit for tat with the second over all pick from the 2014 draft for the second time in a week. Adams will be fine, just have some patience for the young ladd. And knowing how the White Sox grow pitchers, they are probably making him work on his second and third pitches at the expense of his first pitch.

Great stuff Dan.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 07:53 AM) Better not look at twitter then. All sorts of proposals from Cubs fans. Can always tell a trade comes from a Cubs fan or Cubs favoring media when the proposal includes Starlin Castro as a key piece. If the Sox were to trade Q or Sale, Starlin Castro would be literally worthless to them. There would be absolutely no reason for them to take on a big contract and a brand name player, unless they were getting an actual superstar back. If we traded Chris Sale for Gio Stanton, sure. For Starlin Castro? Yeah, the only way that works is if it is a three way deal that brings back another Top 5 BA prospect in the deal.

QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 11:39 AM) At this point, the Sox are so far out of it, they have no fighting chance. This season is over. Now it's time to root for a high draft pick because we need to build up the minor league system. Hopefully the best on board when the sox pick next season is a hitter, but i wouldm't mind the best on board being another pitcher because it seems like pitchers are the only thing the sox can capably develop. The sox has been drafting better ever since they drafted Sale, so we got that going for us. Hawkins prolly has 1 or 2 more minor league seasons before being written off as a bust. Courtney Hawkins is 21 years old.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 11:28 AM) 3rd round talent that has extreme familiarity with the org. I'm sure they knew. They got somewhere around a million or two dollar draft pick for $200,000. Even if they have to wait a year on him, it is worth it.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 21, 2015 -> 02:44 AM) I'm getting tired of hearing "the Cubs won't give up blank for Sale/Q cause they're the real deal." Then they don't get Sale or Quintana. Sale had the highest value in baseball and Quintana's is also extremely high. Seriously. Just read this post over and over again before you post.