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Interesting to see another guy from the outside starting on Day 1 in Boston Smith.

Bro we have been wandering in the desert behind Chris Moses for like 15 years now.

He's a limited ceiling, high floor guy. He will help, but I don't think he is a PLAN.

They are still "working" on "finalizing".

I mean you are allowed to make up whatever you like, but those are the realistic options if Getz is a real GM.

I wouldn't be shocked at all. Sosa is another one that the Sox have been doing everything possible to NOT play.

It will be a double bonus if they release Benny to do it.

So Chris Getz didn't think this was a baseball team that was a long way from contention in December 2023? Or did he know and decide to risk keeping Robert even though it was his first fully healthy season as a pro, knowing full well his health history was always a risk?

Old is a thing. Not sure if reminds certain people of their childhoods, or some sort of idyllic fantasy of old timey baseball, but it is definitely a thing to a LOT of people.

There have been a ton of other options, including other times, other teams, and picking up money in any combination.

There were multiple posts that paying someone too early makes them lazy. I do agree with the idea that PCA could still just not be that good with the bat.

That would actually be a devious as hell move. Have a deal agreed to, but not "done". Call him up, and then announce the deal so you get both the extension, AND the extra pick chance. Wonder if MLB would look at that?

It's always wild to me that the 18 year olds are forgotten after thoughts, when in reality, we know way more about them, than we do the 15-16 year olds in these classes. I wonder how many guys like this fall through the cracks with things like growth spurts or similar and end up being as good as the million dollar guys.

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Based on the draft slots, this is the Sox top 3 picks. $11,350,600 $2,446,100 $1,086,600 If the Sox were to sign Roch to $9.3 million, which is $50,000 more than the former record, it leaves them an extra $2.05 million to use for the rest of the draft. In simple terms, it means they could take that extra money, combine it with the money in their #2 pick, and have about $4.55 million to spend. That number is on par with #18 pick slot in this draft, meaning if they could convince someone around the 20th best player to put up an outrageous demand, they could push them down to #41 and still pay them essentially full slot value of the #18 pick. That's huge. Put another way, the ENTIRE LA Dodgers pool for 2026 is just under 4 million. The Sox could pay their #2 guy about 500k more than that, and still have plenty left over for the rest of the draft. Add to that, the Sox can go up to just under 5% of their total pool OVER their total, which is ANOTHER $879,605, minus a penny. In other words the Sox could still offer #18 money at #41, and they based on JUST their overage, could pay their last pick over a million dollars, even if every other player went to slot value. If they pushed that money up to the #41 pick PLUS a 2 million cost savings for Roch, they could pay their #41 pick about $5.4 million, or the slot value of the #14 pick. Or the Sox could use this where they have 3 slots over a million dollars, and turn it into multiple extra million dollar signings, potentially 3-4 depending on how they spread it out.

It's an interesting footnote, but is still missing the big picture. The Sox should have paid off of the contract and gotten actual top prospects. The Sox let Robert's value deteriorate to almost nothing by the time they traded him. His window was long before this spring. Either way, it should have never been Bady vs Vientos vs Acuna.

NGL, that one hurts.

Lot A is the best lot anyway. Right out on to the Ryan.

So there are numbers floated pre-draft for sure. A player will say I want X million dollars to sign, or I will go back to college, so teams will have an idea of what they are up against, but once they ARE drafted, the ONLY team they can negotiate with is the team that picked them. There is nothing stopping Roch (or anyone else) saying I want $12 million to sign. Or full slot value of the #1 pick, or whatever number they want. But once they are picked, they can only negotiate with the one team. Most likely the team and player will have exchanged numbers and either be on the same page, or close enough where they feel they can work together. In a case like this, Roch's people say we want full slot value. The Sox say well the previous record was $9.25 million, what do you think of $9.3 million? Now BEFORE he is drafted, Tampa can say, hey we will give you $10 million, and he takes that number to the Sox and tells them he won't sign for less than that, or don't pick him. Now the Sox have to decide whether it is still worth it or not. They do this little dance ahead of time and either move to a general agreement space, or the Sox feel they can't sign him, and maybe they move on. Maybe they play hardball knowing he won't go back to school as a senior. Maybe they pick the guy who WILL sign for $9.3 million allowing them a top pick AND another 2 million dollars to use in the rest of the draft to push down another good player.

They can try to convince him to SAY he doesn't want to go to the Soxm but if the Sox draft him, it doesn't matter a lick what the other teams have to offer. He belongs to the Sox, and no one else, and can't get an offer from another team unless he goes back into the draft as a senior, which won't happen.

The White Sox front office...

And then call him lazy when he fails.

The signature is the best response.

You have Verizon internet? As far as I know, everything else is working.

Thinking more about the idea that guys getting paid early makes them lazy, there is always guys like Corbin Carroll and Bobby Witt Jr to counter that. I think it might bring that out of guys who already had this in them, but for guys who are players, this is a HUGE bargain for the teams who get these done. Witt would have been a free agent in 2028 at age 28. What does a FA contract look like for him by then? We are talking Ohtani money, maybe more. Meanwhile KC has him locked up for about half that number annually until 2037.