Everything posted by southsider2k5
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Under what scenario would you consider offering Crochet and/or Kopech extensions?
The Sox also kicked him in the nuts by destroying his first earning years by putting him the pen. If he had started, he could have another 10ish million in career earnings, maybe a lot more, by the time he hit free agency. Take an oft injured Carlos Rodon as an example... Rodon's 3rd year was $2.3 million. His 4th was $4.2 million His 5th year was $4.5 million even after TJS. Crochet was something like 800k and 800k for his 3rd and 4th years. Non- or minimally injured is is probably 3 million in his 3rd year, 8-10 in his 4th, 15ish in his 5th and 20ish million his last year before FA. If he believes that the Sox putting him in the pen contributed to his injuries, I don't think a deal where he takes a 10 million haircut would leave him with much goodwill for a "hometown discount", especially when he looks at the absolute dogwater of a roster we have offensively and defensively as a pitcher.
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Under what scenario would you consider offering Crochet and/or Kopech extensions?
The Sox may well look at that, but I can't imagine with the breakout year he has had so far that Crochet would be willing to give up THAT much money in his free agent years, because he wouldn't be getting much more than what his arb years would be, in exchange for potentially giving up a huge payday in those last two years. Unless the option year was his own option, or a duel to exercise option, I don't see him being there. Honestly, I think the only way he signs something like that is if he is already hurting and worried about another surgery.
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1b of the future
Our offense prospect pile in the minors right now is pretty slender. Maybe a guy like Quero slots over if KLee keeps up his good work, but no one especially stands out today just because of a big lack of true power bats in the system with any real decent looking future.
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What can we dream on for Fedde?
How about we trade him now and then sign him as a free agent in a year and a half if he is still worth it, just like we would be able to do if we didn't trade him now?
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Under what scenario would you consider offering Crochet and/or Kopech extensions?
People keep saying to extend him, but with his low salary in year 4 because of injuries and being two years away from free agency, I have yet to see any details on a potential extension that makes sense for both sides. With his salary in 2024 at $800,000, that suppresses his salary structure the next two years in the arbitration process to the point where the Sox have a lot of pricing power in those years. Then once he gets past that, his salary structure options explode into free agency, where he could well be a $20 to $25 million a year pitcher on the open market, maybe more if he can actually stay injury free during a season for the first time in his life since his freshman year of college. So how do you structure a deal where he is probably looking a salary structure of say $3 million next year, and maybe $8 to $10 million in arbitration in 26, yet somewhere between double and triple that number in 2027 and beyond? With the Sox knowing they own Crochet for somewhere in the area of $10ish million for the next couple of years, and Crochet knowing teams might throw nine figures at him in 2 years, how do you arrive at something which makes sense to both camps which gives Garrett more money early, but sacrifices a really big payday potentially after that? -What sort of extension convinces Crochet to not hold out and bet on himself in two short years, yet tempts the Sox enough to give away payroll flexibility in the middle of them cutting salary hardcore?
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2024 - MLB Draft Thread
I think the more accurate P word was panicked, but I won't dismiss double speak either.
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2024 - MLB Draft Thread
Well for maybe a week or two he did. But now he has Tommy Pham in CF and Gavin Sheets in RF.
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What can we dream on for Fedde?
The one thing I keep thinking is Fedde has zero history. All of those guys (well maybe not ReyLo, but he was paired with Gio, so hard to separate how much of the return was him vs Rey) had an established history of years of a relative level of performance, even if they weren't killing it at that particular moment. Fedde is the opposite, he has zero history and is killing it at the moment. Does anyone have solid examples of older breakout players getting big returns at the deadline?
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White Sox acquire Corey Julks from HOU for RHP Luis Rodriguez, option to AAA, recall Dom Fletcher, Ortega DFA'd
Yep, forgot about the change under the last CBA to 7 days.
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White Sox acquire Corey Julks from HOU for RHP Luis Rodriguez, option to AAA, recall Dom Fletcher, Ortega DFA'd
I think with a DFA you have 10 days to make a deal if someone claims, and if it doesn't work out you could pull them back or let them go for nothing.
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2023-24 NFL Season Thread
And with all of those young defensive players we are asking to step into bigger roles too, I do think we will be seeing an ascending trendline.
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2023-24 NFL Season Thread
With a young team, I think you are on to something here. They probably will peak as people get to know each other better.
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What can we dream on for Fedde?
How about Whit Merrifield?
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5/15 Games
- Story on Sox trade possibilities...
So we keep him so we can win 55 games? Nah, give me whatever we can get for him. If we want him at age 33, we can bid on him as a free agent, just like we would if we keep him. It's not like we are even going to be close to a .500 team while he is under contract anyway.- and that's a WHITE SOX RUBBER GAME WINNER!
- What can we dream on for Fedde?
In before Jake Burger.- I don't expect it to happen, but......
Laugh reacts only.- and that's a WHITE SOX RUBBER GAME WINNER!
I never thought I would pine foe Max Stassi to return but...- White Sox acquire Corey Julks from HOU for RHP Luis Rodriguez, option to AAA, recall Dom Fletcher, Ortega DFA'd
These two posts this close to each other is hilarious.- What can we dream on for Fedde?
Because we can do both.- 5/15 Games
- 5/15 Games
This will look like 2 ER, but yeah.- White Sox acquire Corey Julks from HOU for RHP Luis Rodriguez, option to AAA, recall Dom Fletcher, Ortega DFA'd
I will be honest, based on their AAA numbers, I would rather see Julks get a run here.- White Sox acquire Corey Julks from HOU for RHP Luis Rodriguez, option to AAA, recall Dom Fletcher, Ortega DFA'd
So much logic here and in a joke about rape, right? GTFOH with this victim complex. - Story on Sox trade possibilities...
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