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So quiet, even I missed this one.

Honestly the most likely outcome is both teams get minimal to no output out of these guys.

Weird, there was a mention of Cease hitting 97 the other day and basically it went unnoticed.

If this article was written about literally anyone else but Mena, Sox fans would be blowing this off as spring training fluff.

I get the idea that some see red flags with Caleb. Maybe they do like Maye more and are just slow playing this. But I still can't see a scenario where passing up all three of the top players (Williams, Maye, Harrison) in this draft looks like a good idea three years from now. Heck they already blew missing out on the OSU QB last year, but got bailed out by getting the #1 pick again.

To have a generational predicted QB and a generational predicted WR on the board with the #1 pick, and to choose neither seems like borderline negligence, even with all of the picks. Not to mention Fields is about to get really expensive, really quickly, and building around a guy who still hasn't been healthy or broken out seems rife with a lot of downside.

Pretty sure $27 million a year for a utility player isn't a value proposition.

Plus a sales tax capture if the stories are right. But the tag line is no "new" taxes for sure Also a football stadium would not fit on this site.

Exactly. It isn't just the ballpark.

If some Sox fans are miserable, everyone else has to be miserable too.

4 billion is the full project, including the other buildings.

That's part of that $900m that some writers have been including in the stadium ask to come up with the $2 billion number.

But wait, I was told that not being yelled at enough was why these guys didn't seem to care? Weird right.

He totally didn't have patience for him. It made for awful broadcasts at times.

Seemingly

The ISFA is already an existing structure within Chicago. It exists specifically for this task, just like any of the other taxing bodies being used in any of these types of deals. You can argue "fairness", but these bodies do exist, and companies are taking advantage of them.

It's Fanatics. They are a freaking disaster.

At the very least there are like half a dozen different college's located down there within walking distance, plus the south Loop crowd on a daily basis.

I am just going to point out that this same group of players (for the most part) had no problem getting along and winning when Ricky was the manager.

I am going to say this in the nicest way possible. Especially for those who don't live in the actual city of Chicago, but instead live in the towns and suburbs around it, if your level of outrage is really this high for what is being asked for in this project, you probably have no idea what is going on in your own towns on a day to day basis. Really try to get involved in some of your local boards and the like if possible. I spent 12 years on my towns planning commission. This is really where you learn how things work, and you also have a real chance to make change. Having been on the periphery for about 90% progress in an Amazon project right here in my own home town, there is so much detail that is really not being understood here. We negotiated tax breaks, job training funds, TIF districts, and even a moving of county and municipal limits so that the site would be entitled to extensions and connections to the municipal water and sewer systems as a part of the deal. All for a deal that failed when Amazon shut down a bunch of similar projects all over the country because of "cost cutting". I have no problem thinking some of you would continue to be outraged here, but this stuff is not unusual, and the misunderstandings of pieces of these types of projects are fixable.

Not true as long as you visit the area.

Not if they don't get what they want to do the project.

Working for Belichek they pretty much did what he told them to.

Edgar Navarro.

Nah, somehow doing something you hate for 75 years makes you a better person, or something.