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QUOTE (DBAHO @ Nov 19, 2009 -> 06:22 AM) The only team I can honestly think of is Atlanta. They were after Campbell when they signed him, and they need to improve quickly if they want to re-sign Kovalchuk long - term. With Huet, he's got what 2 years left on his deal after this season IIRC, so the Hawks could probably dump that contract if they had to, just wouldn't get much in return. Sopel, well we'd be lucky to get anything for a 6th/7th d-man making that type of $$$. In the end, I think we'll trade Huet, go with a Niemi / Crawford platoon next season, and try to get under the cap that way. You also have to find a team that is $7 million under the cap, AND is willing and able to add that much money long term.

QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 19, 2009 -> 04:31 AM) Um Mike, he wanted his name changed, not under his name. Well now he is justBLAZE all over the place

QUOTE (danman31 @ Nov 19, 2009 -> 01:58 AM) I was wondering the same thing. Santeliz has to work on his control, but I gotta say I don't know a lot about his stuff. BA had him 14 going into this year, but they said his fastball works from '90-96' so I have no idea what to think of that. That's far too big of a range to take anything from. I've heard before that his slider can be great so as a reliever there's some upside there, but BP might have seen him when he was on and not when he was off. As far as I can tell it seems like a consistency issue (which of course you can see just from his glaring lack of control). Still, he had a solid K rate and an ERA under 1 this year for the Barons so maybe BP is thinking he is starting to put it together. Thompson seems to be the prototypical 'if he can figure it out' guy as SoxAce even said. He has big upside, but a LONG way to go. He struggled in rookie ball this year, to no surprise really, but to say 2012 could be his breakout year is going to an extreme. You can take a look at Chris Carter and see a guy out of high school that took a few years to get it together and gradually turned into a spectacular prospect. Carter fell to the Sox in the 15th round because of an injury (and signability questions because of the injury) so huge talent can slip through the cracks. Thompson even slipping to the 2nd could be a coup in the future. What's exciting about his pick is that it's not a pick the Sox have made often with a high draft pick recently. They did quite a bit of it this year. Sounds a lot like Brandon Allen as well. He was a 4th round pick who took a couple of years to really start to figure it out.

Not again. Math is hard, let's go shopping!

QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 09:07 PM) Just for general reference purposes if there are any lurkers... Soxtalk/FutureSox/Soxnet doesn't make up stories or post anything that hasn't been verified by an outside source. I've been posting here for almost 6 years and on the staff here for nearly 4 and outside of a poster bringing in speculation on occasion, this site has been very cautious about what is posted when it comes to "breaking news." And really Soxnet isn't "new". There were some issues that made it disappear for a while, but essentially it has been getting stuff right since at least 2002, which is more than I can say for some...

QUOTE (tommy @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 10:31 PM) justBLAZE Done and done.

Losers count calories.

Unless there is a 5-1 type trade, these are guys that are all expendable, as we try to move guys up through the lower levels of our system. None of those guys is ever going to contribute to the CHICAGO White Sox.

QUOTE (wsgdf_2 @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 09:36 PM) Cowley probably does come here and read. FWIW - when I saw the tweets you guys posted and heard about his Score interview I pretty much figured he was partially reacting to what's been posted about him here for the past couple of years. Frankly, I never really got what all the over the top criticism was about. Like I said earlier. Look how Mark Gonzales from the Trib handled things, and look how Cowley did.

I got to lecture to a journalism class today...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 08:00 PM) Potentially just means you haven't completely sold your soul to a drug/insurance/financial/food service company yet. Funny thing is that money won't change me at all... I have always been a dick.

QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 08:07 PM) No nose news is good nose news. And I am Gary Nose...

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 08:31 PM) People won't be lining up for that. They may not have a choice. Some of those guys must go, possibly Versteeg. He's just not one of the elite guys on the team, which means he's a possibility to go. I don't know how they can realistically rid themselves of Soup AND Huet's contract, let alone one of them. This is going to be very difficult and there are going to be a handful of good players gone. I'm looking at the group of Versteeg, Sharp, Barker, Byfuglien, Bolland. You could see a few of those gone with relative ease. This is going to be interesting, that's for sure. I agree, and that is where the farm system is going to be huge. We have to get some guys like Skille, Aliu, and Beech come up and make some noise cheaper than the guys who are hear now.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 07:55 PM) I wanted to add that you have done a great job of expanding your knowledge of both the sport and the Sox since you took that job Chris, not everyone has that dedication. I know when you were first hired that your buddies used to joke about it quite a bit, but I think you've more than proven yourself the last few years. And Cowley is still an unprofessional douchenozzle, but I know you probably cant put that out in the open. I will say I was a HUGE (and still am) Dave Wills fan, so it took me about a year to warm up. But now I really feel that Chris is as much of the radio cast as DJ and Farmio.

QUOTE (Ranger @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 08:59 PM) You are right, he could've done that. But the difficulty in doing that is that there are SO many rumor blogs out there that it is almost impossible to fact check every single one of them every time there is a report of a potential trade. He may have done that if SoxNet were already widely regarded as a credible source for White Sox information. Now, don't take that the wrong way. I'm NOT saying that SexNet is unreliable. What I'm saying is that the majority of media consumers don't know if it is or not, and most have probably not even heard of the site before. I mean, I do because it's my job to try and know what's out there. But I would argue that most casual fans of the team are not familiar with this site. SoxNet may be right every time, but for all most people know, it could just be another rumor blog. You know what I mean? After a while, SoxNet may develop a reputation that would force mainstream outlets to check into everything the blog reports. At which point, SoxNet would essentially become mainstream. Nice work Ranger, but I think you are getting your rumors from a completely different spot Anyways, welcome to SOXtalk

Oh, no, I am a wanna be politician. There is a difference.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 05:17 PM) I was just comparing alomar's nose to other players noses around the league. I would have given the edge to a bunch of others first, truth be told. There is zero statistical truth to that at all.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 07:37 PM) I wouldn't trade Huet. I wouldn't be comfortable with Niemi going forward. Despite having a super deep farm, the Hawks do not have a stud goalie down there. I'd trade Campbell for a guy making half of his salary then a 2nd or 3rd round pick. The guy is one of the Hawks worst players yet he's the highest paid. After the year, I'm guessing they'll be looking at dealing Versteeg, Barker, Sharp, and MAYBE Seabrook. Hjalmarsson has been a pleasant surprise and so that might put Seabs on the market. The problem is who is going to want that contract when it comes to Campbell?

QUOTE (The Critic @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 04:10 PM) $9 million plus, spent on Bolland, Versteeg and Byfuglien, seems crazy to me. At least one of those guys won't be around, if not two.

Lame ass poll voters... Of course I didn't vote, which makes me the lamest of all.

Gack.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 06:29 PM) You can also consider a restaurant. Say said restaurant has 4 very good cooks and 1 cook who is learning/old, but can hold their own. Say your serving staff is full of under-qualified employees and is lacking employees. Is the kitchen going to get that much better if you the best cook in town? Probably not. Is the serving staff going to get that much better if you add the best server in town? You bet your ass. It's simply following the Law of Diminishing Marginal Returns. Someone after my economic heart...

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 05:50 PM) It's basic economics. One more or an improved starter in the rotation isn't going to do a hell of a lot more than it already can, but a fantastic hitter in the middle of a mediocre lineup can make it a good offense, which is going to do quite a bit for this team in the long run. Bingo. To make it simple, Adding Gonzalez will win us a lot more games than Halladay would.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 05:32 PM) So people would be willing to give up 1 of Floyd or Danks for a 1 year rental of Halladay and at the same time leave us with zero funds left for the DH/LF spots? Adding Halladay to that rotation is simply overkill. You can't offset a weak offense by producing a moderate upgrade out of your #3 starter spot. Exactly. For the improvement we would get from Halladay versus Danks or Floyd, we could spend a lot of those assets (both prospects and money) to help places that will help us win a lot more games than that one would.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 03:09 PM) From when FDR started, unemployment kept going down, not up. Until of course he listened to the deficit hawks in 1936 and cut back on the support programs. And he still got re-elected twice, despite the big fall backs.