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QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 29, 2007 -> 12:56 PM) I would like to know why Tex, who has been out of college since like 1938, is the one who starts all these college threads. Alzheimers... He still thinks its 1938. That roommate he keeps seeing is actually his nurse. The pills she keeps slipping him are his meds.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 01:09 PM) Oh, and someone needs to bring up 1994 as well. QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 01:23 PM) I'm going with 1997. Granted, the Sox were probably not going to catch the Injuns that year, but the White Flag trade KILLED me...absolutely KILLED me. The entire org. gave up that year, and THAT is inexcusable. QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Aug 28, 2007 -> 12:45 PM) 1984 These three years are all worse than this year for me. Maybe in time perspective will change that, but 1994 was by far the worst not only for the strike, but for losing Robin Ventura, my all time favorite player. I didn't go to a game until 1997.

Jim Thome is one of the easiest guys in the world to root for. I really hope he gets it this year.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 01:14 PM) Just learned that one of the other grad students in my department died over the weekend. There is nothing that is harder to accept than the death of someone so young. I had a roommate in college get killed by a drunk driver. It still stays with me to this day.

It'll go back and test 12600 again, I think. We'll see what happens if it breaks through that or not.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Aug 29, 2007 -> 04:39 PM) Sounds kinda like the same logic Dems use in talking about the war. Oh, you didn't go to Vietnam? You can't have an opinion on the war then, you are a chickenhawk. If Edwards wants to be credible on the environment, stop using up more resources than the whole town combined. Fly commercial. Don't take a limo everywhere. Maybe a smaller house, or one more environmentally friendly?(NOT saying he should live in a shack, but his house is HUGE! Maybe he is compensating for something? Hmmm.) For gods sakes, how many rooms does he need? He can only store so much hair gel beore it starts to go bad. And you don't want to see bad hair gel. To me this is a hypocracy on par with a Larry Craig who preaches one lifestyle and lives another. Why is Craig being tatooed in public, but Edwards is getting a free pass? Conceptually this is the exact samething.

If I had to bet, the Fed will not raise interest rates. If you listen to the FedSpeak, they do not want more cash in the system on the public end. They want liquidity in the system, but they don't want to put a bunch of money out there because they don't want inflation. They are still scared of inflation. That's why they did the overnight lending instead of the Fed Funds rate.

My roommates act like they own the place...

QUOTE(Texsox @ Aug 28, 2007 -> 10:30 AM) ^^^^^^ Didn't take long for me to find someone I agreed with. I just do not understand this segment of the illegals. A far better approach, IMNSHO is A. Yes we are here illegally, but we have led respectable lives. We've worked hard, raised a family, and didn't cause any problems for anyone. B. Please allow us to stay. And as always, I am for allowing illegals who have means to support themselves and have not broken any other laws, to remain. If you ain't workin' and so much as jay walked, you are outta here. That is a much better arguement than this one was. You get more people with honey...

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Aug 26, 2007 -> 07:06 PM) Wills used to blame the players more. I am thinking of when he went off on Koch after that meltdown in Seattle on Sunday night baseball. Why would you blame the players? It is obviously the coaches, manager's, and GM's fault.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 27, 2007 -> 08:32 AM) Well, if it makes you feel better... there are still about 8000 homes in the Chicago area (ComEd) without power. Mostly in Wilmette, Glenview and other North Shore burbs. Supposed to be 100% back up by tomorrow night. Did you get power back yet? We got power back at 12:30 pm yesterday. It was 68 hours, bad enough in ideal conditions, not real fun with a near 2 year old.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Aug 26, 2007 -> 05:27 PM) You mean Andy Gonzalez isn't an impact player Has anyone ever said differently? Heck if it wasn't for injuries to Pods, Crede, and Ozuna, he wouldn't even be here. Its not like he is even the 25th man on this roster, more like 30th.

I too like the move of Fields to LF. He is a future LF anyway, we might as well have him make his mistakes now when nothing is at stake. This move does tell me that the Sox are planning on Joe Crede being in our plans for 2008, because Josh would be playing 3B if not. To me it is obvious because if the Sox are talking about bringing in an impact player, opening up another position at 3B, in addition to SS and CF, plus the bullpen, wouldn't make any sense.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 26, 2007 -> 04:03 PM) Wills was about a billion times better than Mr. Rongey. If anything it's nice to have a die hard Sox fan doing the show. Personally I always liked the guy. I still think he would be better than most of the broadcasters we have in the booth now. But I do remember the "homer" slam always being applied to Dave as well.

So theoretically could Pittsburgh go after Bettis for the money they paid him while "injured"?

A few years ago the same stuff used to be said about Dave Wills.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Aug 26, 2007 -> 09:49 AM) "Lifetime contracts" >>>>>> lifetime of never seeing my team win the whole damn thing. I remember seeing A LOT of people saying we should spend everything to take one chance at a World Series, and that it didn't matter what happened after the fact. They just wanted the one title. Those people seem to have all disappeared, except for one honest one here. to you for being honest.

The thing that makes me laugh about this case is that it is conviently glossed over that this woman committed social securty fraud and tax fraud, even if you want to ignore the, at least, two illegal entries into this country. She was convicted of social security fraud for purchasing a stolen social security number, and using that to commit fraud in getting a job. Is that the kind of person we really want in this country? If people are OK with that, please take out a credit card or two, and let me use them directly, instead of going through the problem of stealing it from you. Even if you want to ignore the immigration stuff, she does not deserve to stay here, in my opinion.

I think they realized that people were serious about this not happening. It would be nice to see people go after things like the City of Chicago and US Steel who dump way more into the Lake, but this is a start.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 21, 2007 -> 04:41 AM) Why expect it?! This is a concept I've never understood. A large percentage of our fans are completely passive concerning this issue. Why should Kansas City, Pittsburgh, or Tampa Bay fans expect a championship? They don't do it well, right? If our fans have expectations of the White Sox to be the best team in baseball, why can't this sentiment transfer itself to player development? Management from Williams on down should strive to not only have a championship calibur ballclub, but a minor league system capable of producing replacement level players. Andy Gonzalez and Jerry Owens just won't cut it. Personally, and I don't believe I'm alone here, I expect more from this organization. Everyone should be aboard and hold player development to the same elevated standards they have towards the major league team. What do we have to show for the last two years of scouting other teams minor league systems and selling players at the right time? Danny Richar? Maybe. Nick "Tick Below Jenks" Masset and Gavin "Arizona Fall League" Floyd don't do much for me. I probably wouldn't have cared as much if it weren't for Williams proudly raving on the talent both possessed. As of now, either appear major league ready, and as a result, Williams looks foolish. Any benefit we've had recently from obtaining other teams prospects is minimal and overstated because of Jenks. Until we have a deal comparable to that of which Minnesota received for Pierzynski, or Cleveland for Bartolo Colon (ie, franchise changing trades), then I'm not going to give Williams much credit for receiving Gonzalez and Danks in what's beginning to look more and more like one-for-one deals. I credit him for dealing McCarthy, but not for only one player worth a damn. Championships won't be won with small steps such as those. More contributing players need to return in trades if, according to you, our draft success is poor and that's just the way it is. In addition, if they truly knew the best oportunity to trade players Garland would have been traded last month. We're going to go through the same issues with his contract extension as what occured with Buehrle, and -- judging from his post ASB performance -- there's a chance we're not going to receive much for him if he doesn't rebound soon. Why didn't they see this coming? I wasn't the only one on Soxtalk practically begging Garland to be traded for positional prospects. Or how about Crede? He should have been traded with lingering back issues and Fields in the wing, correct? Because they were dangling him to Anaheim suggests to me the thought atleast entered their minds. It wasn't as if it was an impossible turn of events to predict. Certaintly more predictable than McCarthy breaking down. Why not? Why can't we be the Twins? This is exactly the problem I have with comments such as yours. We're so willing to emulate the Twins on the field with their philosophy of "playing the game right" and having "grinders," yet we're not willing to match the Twins and their success from within? It's just strange to me how you show absolutely no faith in the system, yet provide no criticism of Williams or anyone else. Almost as if you're virtually shrugging your shoulders. Even if you're more confident in him extracting talent from other clubs, shouldn't it be a priority of a contending ballclub to have their own draft picks succeed? Our ways of acquiring talent is really more limited than people think. -Boras re: draft/FA -Don't select players overslot -Don't have much success developing players on national or international level -Never can be expected to outbid anyone for a high profile player -Nature of market has made finding low-key FA's with high potential less and less likely -Few players on the team hold significant trade value -Fewer players on the team with value are expendable because of someone in the minors ready to replace them. Of course, the one scenario this could have benefited us was with backless Crede and Josh Fields. Only seems fitting Crede undergoes surgery. I don't know about you, but I believe one of these is the easiest to change. That's option #3. To hear people dismiss it is the equivalent, in my mind, of accepting failure. I believe Shaffer's firing two months ago suggests Williams doesn't take such failures very lightly. I think you all forget that the Sox are a zero sum operation as an organization. If they Sox were suddenly to start drafting the highest dollar players with every pick, and screw signability, that money would come out of the major league payroll. So which marketable $10 million dollar player are going to trade off and convince the general public that this is a good move, all to draft and sign guys that won't be in the majors for years, if ever. Are you willing to deal Jim Thome or Javy Vazquez for what might happen in 2010, 2011, or so, and still think that people will come to the ballpark and support a smaller payroll until that point? Again the Sox do not draft and develop talent well. I don't know how you can't take that as a critizism of the Williams group, but I guess I have to post it all caps or something to make that clear. The difference is that I understand the effort and our payroll go to the major league side of things. In the Williams time as GM, we have usually been a good team. This is the first time in almost 20 years that we are looking at this bad of a team, so it is hard to say that they have been doing it wrong. Secondly if having such an awesome minor league organization was so easy, why don't all of the other teams do it, and forget all of the high dollar players? I love pointing to two of the most lopsided trades in the last 20 years, and making it seem like those deals happen all of the time. How many of those type of deals really happen? Again, if there were that many completely stupid GMs out there, everyone would be doing those deals. If you are lucky, you see a deal that lopsided every few years.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Aug 21, 2007 -> 08:54 PM) Hmm, so what you are saying is that the illegals are going to take over our entire country, slaughter most of us, and imprision the rest of us. I don't think that will calm groups like the militiamen.

We are now working on 50 hours without power, and are back at the in-laws for showers and dinner. I hate NIPSCO. They suck. There is still a wire laying on my fence that they haven't done anything about.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Aug 23, 2007 -> 10:06 AM) Does anyone know what it would signify if a company announced a repurchase program for their shares? is this healthy? or is this a sign of a bad economic future? In my experiences it is usually an move to artificially prop up a sagging stock price. I know history bears out that when a stock experiences a buy back rally, it usually fades right back to where it started at.

So we are in full campaign swing mode now... Is it worse for a Republican to say that the Democrats are hoping for bad news in Iraq because it is good for their party, or Hillary saying that a terror attack would benefit the Republicians?

Much like the Osama rumors... I'll believe it when I see it.